Anti Nu-Metal

[Thy_Art_Is_Guitar]

It has its place. In my opinion, there are two sides to nu-metal, the metal and the non-metal side. For example, in my opinion, System Of A Down is metal and Linkin Park is not. I think that it is overrated, however, I feel that it is unfair to say that all nu-metal bands aren't "real" metal. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter what genre it is the music is either good or bad.

[BlutAusNerd]

It has its place. In my opinion, there are two sides to nu-metal, the metal and the non-metal side. For example, in my opinion, System Of A Down is metal and Linkin Park is not. I think that it is overrated, however, I feel that it is unfair to say that all nu-metal bands aren't "real" metal. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter what genre it is the music is either good or bad.

I have to agree with some of these points and disagree on others. While nu-metal does have varying degrees of metal influence as you pointed out, I have yet to hear a band in which it is a majority of the sound. As such, I think it's fair to say that it's a metal influenced genre of rock music (like crust punk or stoner rock), but not a metal genre. While I don't like any nu-metal bands, I will agree that your enjoyment of any kind of music shouldn't be contingent upon its genre.

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[EmeraldDark]

I sometimes listen to some Clawfinger, Spineshank, or Skinlab. From Clawfinger, I recommend Recipe of Hate. From Spineshank I recommend Synthetic. From Skinlab listen to Come Get In.

Skinlab have been a Groove Metal band similar to Machine Head, but their album ReVolting Room is considered a fusion of Groove and Nu metal.

[NokturnalBoredom]

Nu-Metal wasn't that bad, because it got a lot of people interested in true metal later on as they got older. When you're a kid, stuff like Slipknot, Reveille, & Deftones is all you know at first because that's what's being heavily promoted by mainstream media/MTV. I remember being really into Kittie as a young teenage boy (the fact that they were all attractive girls probably helped a lot) and because of bands like Kittie, Slipknot, and Skrape I later found Iced Earth, Emperor, and Dark Funeral.

I don't see anything wrong with having a hip-hop influence in metal. Anthrax did a song with Public Enemy (Bring the Noise) so it's not like the crossover of hip-hop and metal was anything unique to the late 90s. The problem is that a lot of what gets lumped into Nu-Metal is really just hard rock. I'd venture to say that there are less Nu-Metal bands than one might actually imagine: Kittie was definitely one of them, as was P.O.D. and Korn (in their early days) but as for bands like Crazy Town, Linkin Park, etc those were just rap/rock bands that were a little more aggro than 311 (I personally love 311 and have gone to see them live before and had a great time)