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Went to see Metallica a few years ago in Dublin and Mastodon were supporting...a band I'd not listened to before then and hated them they sounded shit an absolute mess!!! I gave them a wide birth since then until a friend brought round an album n I gave it a listen....wow thats not the band that were on stage that night!!! Outstanding technical music....I now own all their albums' date=' the only thing I can think of that gig was that their sound was messed up or something, I'm dying to see them again just to see!!!![/quote'] I can see where you're coming from Citizen. Their music is quite intricate (for heavy music). I saw them play live on BBC bed-wetters music programme 'Later With Jools Holland' and they sounded awful, but I've liked them for a while. Maybe live the intense sound doesn't suit their music. But I've yet to get round to seeing them live (old and frail, 47 next week!). Mind you, my tv was of a quality that would have Mr. J.L. Baird spinning in his grave whilst shaking his head and muttering "why did I [email protected]' bother..."
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Yeah there's def some bands that don't sound great live' date=' as you say they might have too much going on to be able to transfer it live, it was an outdoor gig n would like to hear them in a small venue just to see.[/quote'] Ahhh, outside is even worse then, eh? I remember I got my wife tickets to awful-indie-wank-festival- T In The Park because Foo Fighters and The Killers were on. So we went. Foo Fighters are actually OK and Dave Grohl should be a USA national treasure...BUT When the wind got up, the sound LITERALLY blew away!!! Certainly, that was a poofy, powder-puff indie-wankfest, but if the sound was dodgy outdoors at Mastadon, it wouldn't do their complex songs any good. Especially when (unlike other proggy, complex bands like Rush), Mastadon NEED the heaviness to compliment the intricacy of the songs.
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what's wrong with Rush? if they ever came to Australia I'd love to see them live and what's wrong with outdoor gigs? admittedly I've only been to one (AC/DC) but the sound was brilliant however I suspect that given weather in Australia is invariably perfect during summer this played some part in that

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what's wrong with Rush? if they ever came to Australia I'd love to see them live and what's wrong with outdoor gigs? admittedly I've only been to one (AC/DC) but the sound was brilliant however I suspect that given weather in Australia is invariably perfect during summer this played some part in that
Nothing wrong with Rush, didn't say there was, Restless, just that their style of music doesn't lose any impact if the sound isn't heavy and loud, whereas I reckon Mastadon need it loud. And outdoor gigs can be notoriously dodgy sound-wise. Rain can completely ruin the day (Donnington 1981 for example). And, as I stated, being windy can also bugger it up too.
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Ive been to some festivals and such and the trouble is always to stand on the right place, ive seen some bands where i didnt even hear the vocalist and some others were everything sounded really good. Sometimes the sound just blow away thou. Metalcamp in Slovenia have their only main stage in a small valley, there i didnt have any troule with wind. But Wacken have that, flat landscape and a huge stage. Thats why i like the small ones they use to have in tents or similar.

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Back in 2007 I saw Divine Heresy open for 3 Inches of Blood. I hated DH when I first saw them but my interest was piqued and I actually gave their stuff a serious listen and I loved it. Unfortunately they are inactive right now. Kamelot was another one. Granted, all I heard of their stuff were the radio edits of The Haunting and March of Mephisto (which are kind of lackluster when you cut out the more interesting instrumental parts). I didn't like it because I thought they were one of those bands that didn't have much in terms of instrumental talent thanks to those radio edits.. On a whim I checked out a live performance of either Center of the Universe or Forever (can't remember which) and I was very impressed. Shortly after I gave them a serious listen and now they are one of my favorite bands!

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The only example I can give in this thread is "Ritual De Lo Habitual" by Janes Addiction. I hated that album as a teenager, hated their sound, hated their look. Basically they weren't Pantera or Slayer and I didn't give a fuck about them. Fast forward to my thirties and I now acknowledge what a great album "Ritual..." is. The final four songs of that album are faultless for me and I like how the album builds with real momentum from the average opening track and the next one through to the great "Ain't No Right", "Obvious" and "Been Caught Stealing", before coming on to the perfect run of "Three Days", "Then She Did", "Of Course" and "Classic Girl". Proof that somethings do get better with age.

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