Jump to content

\m/ JUDAS PRIEST! \m/


Recommended Posts

13 minutes ago, BlutAusNerd said:

 

I'll agree that Defenders is easily their best 80's album, but still doesn't hold a candle to the trio of genius in Sad Wings of Destiny, Sin After Sin, and Stained Class.

 

Sent from my HTC6535LVW using Tapatalk

 

 

What you are saying is true but only because SIDE B of "Defenders" is not as good as SIDE A. 

The first four tracks of "Defenders" are heavy metal heaven.

Now that you mentioned "Sin After Sin"... would you agree that the main riff of "Sinner" is a twist on "Born to Be Wild"? :D

I don't know about you, but for years I listened to Judas Priest via the 2002 remasters... only to find out years later that the guy who remastered those butchered away in a mess of compression and loudness a lot of the cool nuances of those records!

For instance, the drier original "Sin After Sin" is naturally thinner than the remaster but gives the opportunity to taste every kick of the double bass drum performed by then teenager Simon Philips! His drum parts are awesome! The whole platter is... especially "Dissident Aggressor" and "Call for the Priest"!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

13 minutes ago, BlutAusNerd said:  

I'll agree that Defenders is easily their best 80's album, but still doesn't hold a candle to the trio of genius in Sad Wings of Destiny, Sin After Sin, and Stained Class.

 

Sent from my HTC6535LVW using Tapatalk

 

 

What you are saying is true but only because SIDE B of "Defenders" is not as good as SIDE A. 

The first four tracks of "Defenders" are heavy metal heaven.

Now that you mentioned "Sin After Sin"... would you agree that the main riff of "Sinner" is a twist on "Born to Be Wild"? [emoji3]

I don't know about you, but for years I listened to Judas Priest via the 2002 remasters... only to find out years later that the guy who remastered those butchered away in a mess of compression and loudness a lot of the cool nuances of those records!

For instance, the drier original "Sin After Sin" is naturally thinner than the remaster but gives the opportunity to taste every kick of the double bass drum performed by then teenager Simon Philips! His drum parts are awesome! The whole platter is... especially "Dissident Aggressor" and "Call for the Priest"!

 

It is a bit front-loaded like Painkiller, but even those first 4 tracks don't come close to their counterparts in their 70's masterworks. Born to be Wild does have a cool charging riff, but I would be more inclined to say that Communication Breakdown is a twist on it than Sinner.

 

Remasters in general tend to be a waste, limiting the dynamic range by maximizing loudness, but originals aren't always easy to come by. I just wish they would end the needless practice, since they would save money by not having the studio hours to make it sound worse, and it is almost never a benefit to the overall sound.

 

Sent from my HTC6535LVW using Tapatalk

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 1 year later...

After many years of listening to this band I have finally ranked all the albums to my preference (i'm going to get a lot of weird looks for this one methinks xD)

1.Stained Class
2.Defenders of the Faith
3.Painkiller
4.Jugulator
5.Screaming for Vengeance
6.Demolition
7.Firepower
8.Ram it Down
9.Point of Entry
10.British Steel
11.Sin after Sin
12.Sad Wings of Destiny
13.Turbo
14.Nostradamus
15.Killing Machine
16.Rocka Rolla
17.Redeemer of Souls
18.Angel of Retribution
 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Well I'd rate their work as follows

1. Stained Class

2. Defenders of the Faith

3. Painkiller

4. Sad Wings of Destiny

5. Sin After Sin

6. Screaming For Vengeance

7. Jugulator

8. Nostradamus

9. Firepower

10. Killing Machine

11. Angel of Retribution

12. Demolition

13. Rocka Rolla

14. British Steel

15. Point of Entry

16. Ram It Down

17. Redeemer of Souls

18. Turbo

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 8 months later...
  • 1 year later...
On 10/9/2016 at 1:28 PM, Thrashman said:

I only discovered them 12 albums into their career, when I was about ten and they had released Painkiller. A Touch Of Evil blew me away, and Night Crawler. Never went much further than that for me though. I developed a soft spot for Breaking The Law, and more recently the title track from Redeemer Of Souls, but that's about it. I'd love to see them live though, and Rob Halford is a legend.

I recently added an original pressing of Painkiller to the collection.

...and made myself this compilation (having procured the wavs legitimately, I might add : )

HjPDkGV.jpg

Also picked this up:

A0VnFtK.jpg

Seem to be getting a lot more into them now, in my old age.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 2 weeks later...

I guess I got over them not long after Painkiller.  Rarely play their stuff nowadays but they were never a founding band for me unlike Maiden who I had lots of exposure to their early material from the start of my metal journey.  I don’t have high hopes for them moving forwards, despite Firepower being a strong release.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 2 months later...
1 hour ago, bainesy1us said:

Cant agree with them being better than Maiden but there are one of the best. Just a little too inconsitant for me. Some real classics like, Stained Class, Screaming and Painkiller but some duffers too namely the god awful Nostradamus.

Hiding within the bloated mess of Nostradamus is a solid 35-40 minute album of great material (like every classic album they ever made). It was the hubris of too many intros and synth bits that sunk it. Yet, I would take it over Firepower any day, which is just too generic and ironically for me suffers because it doesn't take chances.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Love me some Priest, but I have to agree they have some real janky tunes I could live without. Could say the same about Maiden and plenty of other old school bands. I think the good stuff far outweighs the bad though. The later albums are mixed at best for me. Painkiller and Angel of Retribution have a few good tunes. I liked the title track from Firepower. Never heard anything from Nostradamus. Probably a few more songs here and there, but when I go to listen to Priest, it's normally Defenders back (74-84).

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


  • Join Metal Forum

    joinus-home.jpg

  • Our picks

    • Whichever tier of thrash metal you consigned Sacred Reich back in the 80's/90's they still had their moments.  "Ignorance" & "Surf Nicaragura" did a great job of establishing the band, whereas "The American Way" just got a little to comfortable and accessible (the title track grates nowadays) for my ears.  A couple more records better left forgotten about and then nothing for twenty three years.  2019 alone has now seen three releases from Phil Rind and co.  A live EP, a split EP with Iron Reagan and now a full length.

      Notable addition to the ranks for the current throng of releases is former Machine Head sticksman, Dave McClean.  Love or hate Machine Head, McClean is a more than capable drummer and his presence here is felt from the off with the opening and title track kicking things off with some real gusto.  'Divide & Conquer' and 'Salvation' muddle along nicely, never quite reaching any quality that would make my balls tingle but comfortable enough.  The looming build to 'Manifest Reality' delivers a real punch when the song starts proper.  Frenzied riffs and drums with shots of lead work to hold the interest.


      There's a problem already though (I know, I am such a fucking mood hoover).  I don't like Phil's vocals.  I never had if I am being honest.  The aggression to them seems a little forced even when they are at their best on tracks like 'Manifest Reality'.  When he tries to sing it just feels weak though ('Salvation') and tracks lose real punch.  Give him a riffy number such as 'Killing Machine' and he is fine with the Reich engine (probably a poor choice of phrase) up in sixth gear.  For every thrashy riff there's a fair share of rock edged, local bar act rhythm aplenty too.

      Let's not poo-poo proceedings though, because overall I actually enjoy "Awakening".  It is stacked full of catchy riffs that are sticky on the old ears.  Whilst not as raw as perhaps the - brilliant - artwork suggests with its black and white, tattoo flash sheet style design it is enjoyable enough.  Yes, 'Death Valley' & 'Something to Believe' have no place here, saved only by Arnett and Radziwill's lead work but 'Revolution' is a fucking 80's thrash heyday throwback to the extent that if you turn the TV on during it you might catch a new episode of Cheers!

      3/5
      • Reputation Points

      • 10 replies
    • I
      • Reputation Points

      • 2 replies
    • https://www.metalforum.com/blogs/entry/52-vltimas-something-wicked-marches-in/
      • Reputation Points

      • 3 replies

    • https://www.metalforum.com/blogs/entry/48-candlemass-the-door-to-doom/
      • Reputation Points

      • 2 replies
    • Full length number 19 from overkill certainly makes a splash in the energy stakes, I mean there's some modern thrash bands that are a good two decades younger than Overkill who can only hope to achieve the levels of spunk that New Jersey's finest produce here.  That in itself is an achievement, for a band of Overkill's stature and reputation to be able to still sound relevant four decades into their career is no mean feat.  Even in the albums weaker moments it never gets redundant and the energy levels remain high.  There's a real sense of a band in a state of some renewed vigour, helped in no small part by the addition of Jason Bittner on drums.  The former Flotsam & Jetsam skinsman is nothing short of superb throughout "The Wings of War" and seems to have squeezed a little extra out of the rest of his peers.

      The album kicks of with a great build to opening track "Last Man Standing" and for the first 4 tracks of the album the Overkill crew stomp, bash and groove their way to a solid level of consistency.  The lead work is of particular note and Blitz sounds as sneery and scathing as ever.  The album is well produced and mixed too with all parts of the thrash machine audible as the five piece hammer away at your skull with the usual blend of chugging riffs and infectious anthems.  


      There are weak moments as mentioned but they are more a victim of how good the strong tracks are.  In it's own right "Distortion" is a solid enough - if not slightly varied a journey from the last offering - but it just doesn't stand up well against a "Bat Shit Crazy" or a "Head of a Pin".  As the album draws to a close you get the increasing impression that the last few tracks are rescued really by some great solos and stomping skin work which is a shame because trimming of a couple of tracks may have made this less obvious. 

      4/5
      • Reputation Points

      • 4 replies
×
×
  • Create New...