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I'm sure it won't come as a shock to anyone here that I like my share of nu metal... You're not alone! ;) I have to disagree with the bands people are listing, though. Limp Bizkit are a little too silly and Linkin Park too poppy. My favourite bands under this bracket would be early Deftones (not saying I don't love newer Deftones- I just wouldn't class it as nu metal), Korn, Slipknot, Ill Nino, and American Head Charge are pretty underrated imo. Other stuff I dig that has been associated with nu metal would be Chimaira, 36 Crazyfists and SOAD, if you could put them into that category (I don't). I quite like Disturbed, but wouldn't call anything past their first album or so nu metal. Most of it comes under hard rock or mainstream/commercial metal.

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I'm sure it won't come as a shock to anyone here that I like my share of nu metal... You're not alone! ;) I have to disagree with the bands people are listing' date=' though. Limp Bizkit are a little too silly and Linkin Park too poppy. My favourite bands under this bracket would be early Deftones (not saying I don't love newer Deftones- I just wouldn't class it as nu metal), Korn, Slipknot, Ill Nino, and American Head Charge are pretty underrated imo. Other stuff I dig that has been associated with nu metal would be Chimaira, 36 Crazyfists and SOAD, if you could put them into that category (I don't). I quite like Disturbed, but wouldn't call anything past their first album or so nu metal. Most of it comes under hard rock or mainstream/commercial metal.[/quote'] I don't mind Deftones, but can't really get into them. Deftones first album fits the nu-metal tag, but their other stuff is a bit questionable. Chimaira's first album was nu-metal, but their other stuff if metalcore, and they're one of the better bands in that pop/metalcore sound IMO. Sent from my HTC PH39100 using Tapatalk 2

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I agree that only the 1st album (and possibly their second) by the Tones is nu metal, but we have to differ on Chimaira. Such a description may fit Attack! Attack! or BFMV, but Chimaira fit more in with the post-Pantera groove metal thing imo. Yes, there are elements of hardcore in their sound (for example, the vocals), which could give the metalcore tag validity, but to describe them as pop metalcore in the vain of the aforementioned bands or Asking Alexandria is a bit inaccurate.

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I agree that only the 1st album (and possibly their second) by the Tones is nu metal' date=' but we have to differ on Chimaira. Such a description may fit Attack! Attack! or BFMV, but Chimaira fit more in with the post-Pantera groove metal thing imo. Yes, there are elements of hardcore in their sound (for example, the vocals), which could give the metalcore tag validity, but to describe them as pop metalcore in the vain of the aforementioned bands or Asking Alexandria is a bit inaccurate.[/quote'] Pop/metalcore, as embodied by Killswitch Engage, Unearth, BFMV, Shadows Fall, Lamb of God, etc..., is a watered down mixture of Pantera and In Flames, the lowest common denominator of their riffs and melodies moulded to pop song structures. Chimaira does fit this sound, but may be on the "heavier" side of the spectrum. Bands like Atreyu may have a bit more emo and less of the toughguy "bro" Pantera stuff going on, but it's still there. Sent from my HTC PH39100 using Tapatalk 2

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But, isn't pop music all about making big commercial catchy tunes with big choruses that you can dance/sing along to? That may fit the 'softer' bands on your list, but I don't feel it fits Chimaira or Lamb of God at all. I feel there needs to be a way we can sensibly differentiate Chimaira from Atreyu because, in reality, the 2 bands don't sound all that alike. Out of interest, where would you put Converge or Hatebreed? Surely they're Metalcore, yet sound completely different to both those bands...

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But' date=' isn't pop music all about making big commercial catchy tunes with big choruses that you can dance/sing along to? That may fit the 'softer' bands on your list, but I don't feel it fits Chimaira or Lamb of God at all. I feel there needs to be a way we can sensibly differentiate Chimaira from Atreyu because, in reality, the 2 bands don't sound all that alike. Out of interest, where would you put Converge or Hatebreed? Surely they're Metalcore, yet sound completely different to both those bands...[/quote'] Pop music is about being simple and hook laden, with the intention of grabbing people's ears with easy and catchy parts, a chorus is merely a tool for that purpose. That's not to say that non-pop music can't be catchy or use choruses, nor that it can't be simple, it's all about intention. It has been pointed out to me that intent is difficult to determine, but a comparison of bands like Integrity, Ringworm, or Converge to bands that combine metal and hardcore (metalcore) in a poppy way like Killswitch Engage, All That Remains, Unearth, etc..., does show that there is a great deal of difference. As you said, grouping these under the same label of metalcore is confusing, as they clearly sound different, which is why I try to call the latter pop/metalcore, emocore, or something closer to what they actually sound like than just calling them "metalcore". Sent from my HTC PH39100 using Tapatalk 2

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