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RelentlessOblivion Grand Master

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Re: Metallica retiring. metallica would have been better off retiring after ...And Justice For All, from then on it was just garbage, they're part of the reason why we have so many pop influenced metal bands, they virtually started the trend what with load and reload, oh and did I mention that everything after Justice sucked?

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If only more bands would take their advice' date=' even though I know its an April fool's joke.[/quote'] Probably true, rtc, I wonder if Maiden too have really had their day now. As for Metallica, I can't say I'm going to lose any sleep over them, I never really like their songs and they strangely never seemed very metal to me.
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Re: Metallica retiring. Strategos Maiden should probably have called it quits about a decade or so ago, they've only released one decent album in the last 12 years (A Matter Of Life And Death) Judas Priest too should have actually retired when they said they would, sure I'd like to hear how Priest would follow up the brilliant Nostradamus but Halford's voice is starting to go, and they can't exactly bring Ripper back again

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RelentlessOblivion Grand Master

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Re: Metallica retiring. I wholeheartedly agree, Death Magnetic was tolerable but even their weakest full blown metal album, ironically their debut Kill Em All (just my opinion since load and the like are NOT full blown metal or metal at all) crushes it, they'll never recapture the old Metallica and they should retire now while they still have half a shred of dignity

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It is foolish to repeat and go back. Metallica, they are great. They always release completely different music. There are problems with the quality of the live performance, but Metallica is more than music. And it's better to release an album every five years and always individual and different than produce garbage every year ....

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))) I like that Metallica is always different. I don't like it when the music for over 30 years does not change. When stagnation, this is boring and not interesting.This is only about the music. Retirement it is still too early, they need to just throw all of the obligations and shit, which for music has no direct relationship. Yes, they have already become quite the aged. What can be displayed on the music. I think James will create something interesting, most importantly, that Lars has not spoiled))

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yes bands should progress, generally though that evolution results in the band getting better, in metallica's case the quality of their music has decreased as they desperately sought the commercial success and mass appeal metal was never going to give them. Death evolved from being a straight death metal band to being pretty much a tech-death band with melodeath leanings, each album got better, of course none of their albums were bad

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If to speak about the progress and the evolution of the... In my opinion progresses from all and is a powerhouse, this is James. In the classical thresh it is already difficult to make progress. The culmination of progress was in the late 80-s. And that what made the world in 90's and 2000's, it's interesting. It is a pity that the rest of the members of this band are not making progress, and engaged unnecessary faeces... And the vocals... Well, show me one singer, who sang harsh for over 30 years without consequences... And the fact that James drops a tone lower, this is good, maybe we'll see more angry growl, and not squeaky whine of the old man. The parallel with Chuck, this is of course good, but... this is a separate topic I guess.

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not really a seperate topic I used it as an example of a band whose evolution led to poor quality albums compared with a band whose evolution brought stronger material and James' vocals really aren't harsh just aggressive early on before he toned it down, we have examples of bands doing harsh vocals over long periods of time, Morbid Angel, Obituary, Ihsahn, even Dani Filth though he was pretty rubbish to begin with so couldn't really lose much talent

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not really a seperate topic I used it as an example of a band whose evolution led to poor quality albums compared with a band whose evolution brought stronger material and James' vocals really aren't harsh just aggressive early on before he toned it down' date=' we have examples of bands doing harsh vocals over long periods of time, Morbid Angel, Obituary, Ihsahn, even Dani Filth though he was pretty rubbish to begin with so couldn't really lose much talent[/quote'] Vocals shouldn't deteriorate over time, even for harsh vocalists, so long as you're performing them correctly. I can't think of too many harsh vocalists that have gotten better over time, but there are plenty that haven't gotten worse.
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All the above in the example of the vocalists sing in a completely different technique. "Harsh", he at the break of vocal ligaments. Here you can really lose the voice on always, if you sing very, very much. About Dani, dude definitely tough, but even in this performance he give a shit. 's not capable of what could before... Chuck Shuldiner....Yes... From album to album he has progressed very rapidly and consistently. This is generally not a musician from our world. It is unfathomable masterpiece! He was a fan of kiss and Metallica, but in the end, "the apprentice" has surpassed "the teacher". It can not but rejoice)

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ok all I understood from that is Death were awesome and Chuck was a god correctly performed vocals be they clean or harsh shouldn't take a toll on the performer, however when they are poorly executed or not practiced as often the quality of vocals inevitably decreases, take Rob Halford for example, he may not be able to quite match the soaring high notes he could twenty years ago but he can still get reasonably close, compare that with Bruce Dickinson who has lost his range entirely and struggles to perform at anything close to the level required for Maiden's classic material

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Oh, Iron maiden... Watched the recently concert of Paul Di'anno... is This some kind of shameful nightmare... I do Not understand why the old man came on the scene... would be Better if he continued to work only in the Studio... a living this is just horrible... Against this background, the rest are just not changed for the last 30 years))

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