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Re: music theory I have heard from a lot of guitarist that theory and more specifically scales took their soloing to another level :ugeek: . I also played around a bit with a strange scale (not that I am really a guitarist) called the Phrygian Dominant, which provides and awesome Middle Eastern sound!

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Re: music theory I think it's a double-edged sword. Yes, it can enhance playing tremendously but in some cases it can also stifle innovation. Depends on the creativity and imagination of the player, I'd say. Sticking to "the rules" can sometimes result in stagnation.

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Re: music theory this is true, rapidfire I can already tell I'm going to enjoy talking metal with you, personally I can't stand learning music theory, I'd much rather just go pick up my guitar and play as opposed to sitting there thinking ok what scale am I using now, what key am I in etc. don't get me wrong I can use the various scales quite well I just don't take that approach to my playing

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this is true' date=' rapidfire I can already tell I'm going to enjoy talking metal with you, personally I can't stand learning music theory, I'd much rather just go pick up my guitar and play as opposed to sitting there thinking ok what scale am I using now, what key am I in etc. don't get me wrong I can use the various scales quite well I just don't take that approach to my playing[/quote'] I would much rather listen to old Celtic Frost than some frilly-shirted showoff band who plays so precise that all the life is sucked out of the music.

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Re: music theory I know nobody likes talking about Ax7, but to me, metal or not, they are a prime example of a band who takes music theory to far. I know they use theory a hell of a lot, and most of their songs sound leaden and heavy to me. So I agree that too much theory really stifles creativity. I wonder if a lot of theory is more about making sure all the instruments work together in a classical context - after all it is a clear fact that composers often nicked music inspiration from folk music!

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this is true' date=' rapidfire I can already tell I'm going to enjoy talking metal with you, personally I can't stand learning music theory, I'd much rather just go pick up my guitar and play as opposed to sitting there thinking ok what scale am I using now, what key am I in etc. don't get me wrong I can use the various scales quite well I just don't take that approach to my playing[/quote'] As someone who, as I said before, knows quite a lot about music theory, I'd just like to say that you don't HAVE to stick to the rules, you just know what they are. My riffs and songs almost never fit into conventional theory. Picasso could paint nearly photo-realistically before he developed Cubism (not that I'm comparing myself to Picasso :lol: )

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I think it may be a song title but I don't know
It's a song from Celtic Frost's Monotheist. Can't find an accurate translation online, I know Vel Daath means of or from knowledge/wisdom, and Abysmi has to be abyss, so maybe something like "from the abyss comes wisdom"?

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Re: music theory It's a song from Monotheist and also the name of one of the appendixes from Crowley's Book 4, I believe. Not a Crowley expert so I'm not positive off of the top of my head. But yeah it refers to a process of entering the "abyss" of one's psyche and emerging with new found wisdom... but I mostly thought it sounded cool. :lol:

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It's a song from Monotheist and also the name of one of the appendixes from Crowley's Book 4' date=' I believe. Not a Crowley expert so I'm not positive off of the top of my head. But yeah it refers to a process of entering the "abyss" of one's psyche and emerging with new found wisdom... but I mostly thought it sounded cool. :lol:[/quote'] Book 4 is the only one of his books I actually made it through, I don't remember that section, but it's been a while. I do remember him talking about that practice in the book though, it might just be the name that is eluding my memory.

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Re: music theory Oh, you betcha! Still, it can go in the opposite direction - look at Korn! I like about four or five of their songs, but mostly it sound like a directionless mess to me. Nyoowwww you 'orrible lot o' Korn merchants, sit down and play the following scales pronto or I'll 'ave your guts for guhters! P.S. Os Abysmi Vel Daath - thanks for the explanation, your name is cool! Very!

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