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Just recently got Cirith Ungol's entire back catalogue for nothing. Pretty good deal, really! I find it difficult to get metal nowadays, since it would appear I've exhausted a fair number of the better known "good" bands out there. I seem to spend more time amassing weird prog/folk/jazz records from the late '60s and early '70s!

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Just recently got Cirith Ungol's entire back catalogue for nothing. Pretty good deal' date=' really! I find it difficult to get metal nowadays, since it would appear I've exhausted a fair number of the better known "good" bands out there. I seem to spend more time amassing weird prog/folk/jazz records from the late '60s and early '70s![/quote'] I've been getting really into King Crimson's whole catalog lately. I've been a Rush fan for many years, but Crimson makes them sound like they're playing with kids' toys in a way. I got into some early Genesis recently, too. As far as jazz, I don't know a bunch, but one of my friends lent me an Albert Ayler CD that I keep coming back to.
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Just recently got Cirith Ungol's entire back catalogue for nothing. Pretty good deal' date=' really! I find it difficult to get metal nowadays, since it would appear I've exhausted a fair number of the better known "good" bands out there. I seem to spend more time amassing weird prog/folk/jazz records from the late '60s and early '70s![/quote'] Every time I think I have found everything there is to find, I'm happily surprised by more discoveries. Never stop looking, there is always more to be found. Cirith Ungol is cool though, I have Frost and Fire and One Foot in Hell, great albums.
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I've been getting really into King Crimson's whole catalog lately. I've been a Rush fan for many years' date=' but Crimson makes them sound like they're playing with kids' toys in a way. I got into some early Genesis recently, too. As far as jazz, I don't know a bunch, but one of my friends lent me an Albert Ayler CD that I keep coming back to.[/quote'] Early Genesis is pretty good, as is early King Crimson, but nothing beats Yes '69-'77. The debut through to Going for the One comprise pretty much the best pieces of "popular music" ever written (if it can even be called "popular music" at that point). Frank Zappa - Hot Rats, just received. Nice stuff!
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I've been getting really into King Crimson's whole catalog lately.
To the casual observer it seems like you listen to an awful lot of King Crimson, and not just lately, but yes I noticed you said "whole catalog". The little bits I've listened to here and there, I have a least two albums of theirs in a box somewhere, tend to motivate me to leave the room and go do something else. It seems busy and erratic, with brilliant bit's surely, but just too much stuff going on. Witness the fact that Frank Zappa is my least favorite musician ever.
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Maybe you'll throw us bone sometime soon Shikawkee, I'm sure I'm not the only one who would be interested in hearing some of your music.
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To the casual observer it seems like you listen to an awful lot of King Crimson' date=' and not just lately, but yes I noticed you said "whole catalog". The little bits I've listened to here and there, I have a least two albums of theirs in a box somewhere, tend to motivate me to leave the room and go do something else. It seems busy and erratic, with brilliant bit's surely, but just too much stuff going on. Witness the fact that Frank Zappa is my least favorite musician ever. [/quote'] Give "Red" a chance. I bet that album would do a lot for you if you were in the right mood. It's still my favorite of theirs, though Belew is probably my favorite performer to watch. I've only gotten into them wholesale pretty recently. I enjoy Zappa, but I have to be in the right mood. I recall "You Are What You Is" being pretty great, but I have no idea where my copy is... I agree, share some stuff!
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Give "Red" a chance. I bet that album would do a lot for you if you were in the right mood. It's still my favorite of theirs, though Belew is probably my favorite performer to watch. I've only gotten into them wholesale pretty recently. I enjoy Zappa, but I have to be in the right mood. I recall "You Are What You Is" being pretty great, but I have no idea where my copy is... I agree, share some stuff!
I really like Zappa and King Crimson, but have nothing from either band.
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Give "Red" a chance. I bet that album would do a lot for you if you were in the right mood. It's still my favorite of theirs, though Belew is probably my favorite performer to watch. I've only gotten into them wholesale pretty recently. I enjoy Zappa, but I have to be in the right mood. I recall "You Are What You Is" being pretty great, but I have no idea where my copy is... I agree, share some stuff!
Aw, thanks gang. I will, I will. I'm in the middle of working on recording the symphony I just finished and I'm trying to finish lyrics for a black metal rock opera (don't laugh, it's gonna' be kind of cool based on the premise of the theme) so I'll post something after the new year. Thanks for asking though.
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I really like Zappa and King Crimson' date=' but have nothing from either band.[/quote'] My favorite Crimson albums are probably Red, Discipline, and Thrak, but of the older stuff I also really dig Lark's Tongues In Aspic and Starless And Bible Black. I bet you'd dig their older stuff more than I do. I'd also recommend checking out their live performances from the 80s, for the musicianship if nothing else. I don't know Zappa's catalog very well. On addition to You Are..., I recall liking Thing Fish, and one of my friends has some live stuff on vinyl that's really good, but other than that I only know bits and pieces.
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Red is a good album, definitely, though not my kind of tone. I really appreciate the musicianship and strength of the composition, and would probably love it if I enjoyed what they were trying to express through it, but it's just not to my taste, unfortunately. Like most King Crimson, actually.. Not my kind of atmosphere in the end ; p Zappa, on the other hand, is one of my favourite musicians. Hot Rats and One Size Fits All are good albums for the more rock/metal oriented crowd, since they're mostly guitar work. I quite enjoy his circus crap like Freak Out and that other early one, but it's less "music" and more "theatre", as far as I experience it.

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Red is a good album, definitely, though not my kind of tone. I really appreciate the musicianship and strength of the composition, and would probably love it if I enjoyed what they were trying to express through it, but it's just not to my taste, unfortunately. Like most King Crimson, actually.. Not my kind of atmosphere in the end ; p Zappa, on the other hand, is one of my favourite musicians. Hot Rats and One Size Fits All are good albums for the more rock/metal oriented crowd, since they're mostly guitar work. I quite enjoy his circus crap like Freak Out and that other early one, but it's less "music" and more "theatre", as far as I experience it.
I can understand your take on Crimson. I have a similar opinion of Barrett-era Floyd. It's only in the past few years that I've developed much appreciation for anything in the rock world prior to the late 70s. I never even used to like Sabbath...
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I can understand your take on Crimson. I have a similar opinion of Barrett-era Floyd. It's only in the past few years that I've developed much appreciation for anything in the rock world prior to the late 70s. I never even used to like Sabbath...
Syd Barrett was only a part of Pink Floyd up until their second album, after which he was permanently replaced by David Gilmour. I dig those albums, but the band came into their own and released their best material with Gilmour at the helm IMO. I don't like the Roger Waters led material as much, and I vastly prefer Gilmour's vocals to his.
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Syd Barrett was only a part of Pink Floyd up until their second album' date=' after which he was permanently replaced by David Gilmour. I dig those albums, but the band came into their own and released their best material with Gilmour at the helm IMO. I don't like the Roger Waters led material as much, and I vastly prefer Gilmour's vocals to his.[/quote'] Waters and Gilmour both wrote and sang on the albums after Barrett left, though, and Waters wrote most of the lyrics. The only albums where Gilmour was really "at the helm" were after Final Cut. I like both their voices, they sound pretty similar to me honestly. The Wall has always been my favorite. TBH the earliest one I really like is Dark Side.
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Waters and Gilmour both wrote and sang on the albums after Barrett left' date=' though, and Waters wrote most of the lyrics. The only albums where Gilmour was really "at the helm" were after Final Cut. I like both their voices, they sound pretty similar to me honestly. The Wall has always been my favorite. TBH the earliest one I really like is Dark Side.[/quote'] I mean prior to Waters taking over entirely on The Wall, I like everything prior to that point better than what followed with Gilmour taking the backseat.
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Like most King Crimson, actually.. Not my kind of atmosphere in the end ; p Zappa, on the other hand [......] I quite enjoy his circus crap like Freak Out and that other early one, but it's less "music" and more "theatre", as far as I experience it.
I dig what youre saying about "theater" and maybe feel somewhat the same about Tom Waits, and would never listen to Zappa in a world that had Waits in it (and please nobody try to engage me in play about Captain Beefheart, just let it go already with that shit).
Never heard a Zappa album. True story me!
I have literally been sat down by a minimum of 4 different guys at different times with a "oh no man, I know you're going to fucking love Zappa, because you haven't heard this choice turd here." they keep being wrong about that. How have you dodged that shit Macabre? kudos.
Syd Barrett was only a part of Pink Floyd up until their second album' date=' after which he was permanently replaced by David Gilmour. I dig those albums, but the band came into their own and released their best material with Gilmour at the helm IMO. I don't like the Roger Waters led material as much, and I vastly prefer Gilmour's vocals to his.[/quote']
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