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40 minutes ago, Balor said:

From Discogs?  I want to get it, but am hesitating about spending that much.

Yep. It would be less if you don't mind less good condition and/or a non-Misanthropy version. And if I wasn't rekindling old memories here I wouldn't mind either. I think Filosofem is the only one of the recent reissues which is meant to have dodgy sound, I believe the others are just slightly lacking in the presentation department (cover print quality).

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2 hours ago, Thrashman said:

Yep. It would be less if you don't mind less good condition and/or a non-Misanthropy version. And if I wasn't rekindling old memories here I wouldn't mind either. I think Filosofem is the only one of the recent reissues which is meant to have dodgy sound, I believe the others are just slightly lacking in the presentation department (cover print quality).

I will probably just have to suck it up and pay for a nice one at some point.  The only thing that irritates me more than a high price is getting a product in poor condition.

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Marduk - Rom 5:12

I liked it a lot in '07 and finally got around to buying it. I think it's one of their strongest albums. But why on earth is this so rare and expensive for something this recent and by a well known band? Aside from licensed copies from places in South America or Russia, it seemed that most people were asking for $20+ used.  

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3 hours ago, FatherAlabaster said:

I am definitely in the minority - I've lost my taste for anything after Symphonies Of Sickness. Basically, anything Amott is on just sort of turns me off anymore. It's too bad, it would be cool if I still enjoyed that stuff.

Symphonies is the quintessential Carcass album IMO, but I'm surprised that Necroticism doesn't do it for you anymore. Mike's more melodic style hadn't really set in yet, you can only hear him sparingly.

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2 hours ago, BlutAusNerd said:

Symphonies is the quintessential Carcass album IMO, but I'm surprised that Necroticism doesn't do it for you anymore. Mike's more melodic style hadn't really set in yet, you can only hear him sparingly.

What happened to me was kind of the reverse of what happens when I keep trying an album over and over until it finally clicks. I put it in one day and realized I just didn't dig it anymore. Every time I've put it on since then, I get more annoyed by those leads, and the songwriting seems contrived and full of non sequiturs. Maybe I'll come back around one day.

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Necroticism is great but Symphonies of Sickness better. 

5 hours ago, FatherAlabaster said:

I am definitely in the minority - I've lost my taste for anything after Symphonies Of Sickness. Basically, anything Amott is on just sort of turns me off anymore. It's too bad, it would be cool if I still enjoyed that stuff.

I kind of agree with you there. I mean, I do like Necroticism but Symphonies of Sickness is easily my favourite and it's that style of Carcass that appeals to me. I'm not sure if Amott really wrote much for Necroticism though. Heartwork is pretty decent and Surgical Steel as well, but they don't do a lot for me. I hate to say it but I'd probably rather listen to an imitator of early Carcass than some of Carcass' later albums. 

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3 hours ago, Vampyrique said:

Necroticism is great but Symphonies of Sickness better. 

I kind of agree with you there. I mean, I do like Necroticism but Symphonies of Sickness is easily my favourite and it's that style of Carcass that appeals to me. I'm not sure if Amott really wrote much for Necroticism though. Heartwork is pretty decent and Surgical Steel as well, but they don't do a lot for me. I hate to say it but I'd probably rather listen to an imitator of early Carcass than some of Carcass' later albums. 

I can agree with this. I would rather listen to Impaled or General Surgery than Heartwork, Swansong, or Surgical Steel.

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3 hours ago, Vampyrique said:

Necroticism is great but Symphonies of Sickness better. 

I kind of agree with you there. I mean, I do like Necroticism but Symphonies of Sickness is easily my favourite and it's that style of Carcass that appeals to me. I'm not sure if Amott really wrote much for Necroticism though. Heartwork is pretty decent and Surgical Steel as well, but they don't do a lot for me. I hate to say it but I'd probably rather listen to an imitator of early Carcass than some of Carcass' later albums. 

 

3 minutes ago, BlutAusNerd said:

I can agree with this. I would rather listen to Impaled or General Surgery than Heartwork, Swansong, or Surgical Steel.

Impaled! That's the one I couldn't remember. I dig "Mondo Medicale" but I never followed them. I also used to enjoy General Surgery and The County Medical Examiners on occasion, but it's been a long time. Gotta break this stuff back out and see if it still appeals.

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17 hours ago, FatherAlabaster said:

 

Impaled! That's the one I couldn't remember. I dig "Mondo Medicale" but I never followed them. I also used to enjoy General Surgery and The County Medical Examiners on occasion, but it's been a long time. Gotta break this stuff back out and see if it still appeals.

I only have the last two Impaled albums, but I dig them. Since you've been digging on Finnish death metal lately, check out Xysma. Their Swarming of the Maggots demo is probably the best Carcass worship I've heard, and they went on to write some super morbid and original death metal after that. Some of the stuff on their first two albums occasionally reminds me of a less proggy Elegy, but it's hard to describe beyond that.

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23 hours ago, RelentlessOblivion said:

The groove of Necroticism is cool but I'd be lying if I didn't admit Symphonies resonates more with me as well. I did borrow Heartwork from a friend recently but it made no impression whatsoever on me. To be honest I do feel Carcass are a bit over-rated.

Aside from Symphonies, I would agree.

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On 28/08/2017 at 1:01 AM, FatherAlabaster said:

Great stuff. Have you listened to Naglfar's "Vittra" or Vinterland's "Welcome My Last Chapter"? Since you're getting into Dawn and Sacramentum lately, they might fit the bill.

I've heard random Naglfar material over the decades and it never really did much for me, but I had never heard 'Vittra'. I'm listening to it now and I really like it. I think I might have to invest in it and make it my own. Vinterland hasn't really turned me on much but again I've only heard snippets so more research is required. Edit: Just went back to 'Welcome My Last Chapter' and remembered that it doesn't really do it for me. The performance is really sloppy - distractingly so. 

Also, regarding Carcass I'm going to come out and say that I think my favourite of their's is 'Surgical Steel'. Monocles all over the forum just dropped, I know, but I really like every song on that album, I love the production, I love the riffs and I'm obviously not much of a grindcore fan so I find 'Symphonies of Sickness' et al a wee bit quirky and chaotic to my ears. 'Surgical Steel' is such an easy listen. It's great.

I respect all the Carcass releases as a whole, and I really like the band. But if I'm being honest with myself, I reach for 'Surgical Steel' a hell of a lot more than the older works. 

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28 minutes ago, Requiem said:

I've heard random Naglfar material over the decades and it never really did much for me, but I had never heard 'Vittra'. I'm listening to it now and I really like it. I think I might have to invest in it and make it my own. Vinterland hasn't really turned me on much but again I've only heard snippets so more research is required. Edit: Just went back to 'Welcome My Last Chapter' and remembered that it doesn't really do it for me. The performance is really sloppy - distractingly so. 

Also, regarding Carcass I'm going to come out and say that I think my favourite of their's is 'Surgical Steel'. Monocles all over the forum just dropped, I know, but I really like every song on that album, I love the production, I love the riffs and I'm obviously not much of a grindcore fan so I find 'Symphonies of Sickness' et al a wee bit quirky and chaotic to my ears. 'Surgical Steel' is such an easy listen. It's great.

I respect all the Carcass releases as a whole, and I really like the band. But if I'm being honest with myself, I reach for 'Surgical Steel' a hell of a lot more than the older works. 

"Vittra" cycled through a little while as my "favorite album" when I was a teenager, between "The Gallery", "Triarchy Of The Lost Lovers", "Turn Loose The Swans", and "Morningrise". I finally got back to it again over the last year or two. Still one of my personal favorite vocal performances, from Jens Ryden (now of Thyrfing). It's the only Naglfar album I have any time for, though.

"Welcome My Last Chapter" Isn't the first album I'd pick to put on in that style, but I really enjoy it nonetheless. I've never been struck by sloppiness. 

I'm sure that your imagination will do a better job of filling in my opinion of Surgical Steel, and any of its fans, than I could ever do myself. :D

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