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Re: Deftones Never really got into them. They had a few songs with alright riffs but that's all. As far as the Nu tag goes the only bands that really caught my attention were Sevendust and Coal Chamber. The first two Sevendust albums were great being both and aggressive. Coal Chamber was just slow and heavy. They completely reinvented their sound on their second album which was pretty impressive. I stopped liking them after I saw them live however. They were terrible.

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Re: Deftones There is nothing nu metal about them they are a hard to classify band, I just call em rock (I know shitty umbrella term) but they are too atmospheric and have too much going on at least in their newer songs to be nu metal. I love their self titled and Around the fur Chino's got a very distinct voice and its good music to zone out too.

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I've never even heard of Coal Chamber.
They were discovered by Sharon Osbourne and stared life as Korn clones. Which was pretty spot on as far as their first album was concerned. It was just better better produced and heavier than the first Korn album. The singer went on to form Devil Driver after they dissolved.

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There is nothing nu metal about them they are a hard to classify band' date=' I just call em rock (I know shitty umbrella term) but they are too atmospheric and have too much going on at least in their newer songs to be nu metal. I love their self titled and Around the fur Chino's got a very distinct voice and its good music to zone out too.[/quote'] What the fuck. They are the nu metal founders along with Korn! Deftones is with korn my favourite band. It's really original, long voice and the atmospheric sound and not without force.

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I just heard the news. Rest in Peace, Chi Cheng. This band has always been one of my favorites, their music has had a huge impact on my life... Damn. Well, as for their genre... their early stuff reminds me of what people were calling metalcore around that time. I think they fit more under that umbrella than nu-metal, but I feel the same way about Slipknot and System of a Down.

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They were discovered by Sharon Osbourne and stared life as Korn clones. Which was pretty spot on as far as their first album was concerned. It was just better better produced and heavier than the first Korn album. The singer went on to form Devil Driver after they dissolved.
Sharon Osbourne is a huge C. U. Next Tuesday.

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Well that seems like a very close minded statement to make. As Mark from Requiem Metal put it' date=' there's a flower growing in every pile of shit. That's Deftones to me.[/quote'] They really don't even fit the nu-metal tag, there are some similarities to some of the earlier bands, but their sound is pretty different. They were going for something totally different than the nu-metal asshats out there and definitely had a more deep and atmospheric approach. Even if I'm not all that fond of this band, they're still better than any nu-metal band by a long shot.

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The Deftones are not nu-metal. Take a listen to "Koi No Yokan" and tell me what part of it's hooky excellence is nu-metal? The Deftones sound is more expansive than almost any nu-metal band you care to name drop. I have "Around The Fur", "White Pony", "Diamond Eyes" and "Koi No Yokan" in my collection and stand by all of them ("Diamond Eyes and "Koi No Yokan" are the best of the lot though). There is passion in what Deftones do - not shouty angst bourne out of hormones or grown-ups not being loved as a child. They successfully combine elements of pop, metal, grunge, post-punk, shoegaze and alternate metal with serious emphasis on atmosphere and emotion. Great band.

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I think Deftones' never quite being able to shake the Nu Metal tag can pretty much be attributed to the sound of the first, and to a slightly lesser extent, their second album. These were indeed Nu Metal, but of a far higher quality than pretty much any of their contemporaries and demonstrated that this band already had a better understanding of dynamics in their tracks and were generally much better songwriters. From White Pony onwards, however, they almost completely shed that Nu Metal sound and became the amalgamation of Metal, Grunge, Post-Punk, Shoegaze etc. that we know today. I love this band. I think they're one of my favourites. They've made awesome tracks that can be enjoyed individually and crafted cohesive albums that totally make sense and work as incredibly moving and powerful pieces of art when taken as a whole!

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Okay I've just got to get this out there - I REALLY, REALLY LIKE DEFTONES! All of their stuff is great to me. I don't think Deftones of SOAD are really a good representative of the nu metal sound but it's more to do with the time they came out (even though Deftones were earlier). I think after the 90s they progressed past what could arguably be called 'Nu Metal' into kind of a Post Rock/Metal territory, which is good.

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Deftones are great. I don't think of them as nu metal myself, but that probably has a lot to do with the fact that while I liked Bored when it came out I only Really discovered and got into them when they released Koi No Yokan - at which point I made a compilation of the tracks I liked from their back catalogue and disregarded the rest.

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Koi No Yokan is a phenomenal album, kind of the album I'd been waiting for from them.  The self-titled is probably my other favorite in their catalog. White Pony was my first Deftones album, but I don't listen to it much, it's somehow a bit too full of 90s clichés for my taste these days. Diamond Eyes grew on me, and I enjoy Around The Fur when I hear it.

I somehow respect them more for being hit and miss - they're obviously doing what they want to do, rather than churning out clones of previous albums, and they're not afraid to take risks. Having said that, Gore sucks. I hope they get their energy back.

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