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Megadeth pre RISK vs Megadeth post RISK


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So here's one for the Megadeth fans on the forum, thought it might be interesting to compare Megadeth's work before RISK to what they've done since. (lets ignore RISK, it doesn't really even count as metal). you know weigh in on the musicianship, quality of albums, quality of lyrics etc. I'll start us off. Whilst I think Megadeth's work since RISK has, for the most part, been good, it has not been on quite the same level as the pre-RISK Megadeth. There are some good songs on The World Needs A Hero, The System Has Failed, United Abominations and Th1rt3eN, and some great songs on Endgame, but with the exception of select songs Megadeth has largely lacked the in your face attitude and outright intensity of their earlier works, admittedly this intensity did wane somewhat after Rust In Peace, but even Countdown To Extinction, Youthasia and Cryptic Writings still had some great songs, while since RISK Megadeth has largely produced only good songs. Endgame was a true return to form for the band but in my opinion Th1rt3eN does not quite reach the same level, it's a good album but not great, perhaps if it were better my opinion would differ, I give Megadeth's pre RISK work an eight out of ten (if it were pre CTE I'd give them ten) and their post RISK work six and a half.

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Re: Megadeth pre RISK vs Megadeth post RISK I'd say everything from 'Killing'-'Countdown' was excellent. 'Youthenasia' was alright in a few places but lacked over. 'Cryptic Writings' was a step up in quality but 'Risk' was painful. I gave up on Megadeth after that album came out. 'The World Needs A Hero' & 'The System Has Failed' seemed like halfassed attempts to apologize for 'Risk' but again I never heard much of anything from either to warrant returning to the band. Blutausnord played 'United Abominations' for me at a friends house and I went out the next day and got a copy. That album is amazing. So is it's followup 'Endgame'. Sadly, what I've managed to hear from 13 wasn't anywhere near the quality of the aforementioned two. I'm planning on getting it as an xmas gift from someone but we'll see. I hope it's better than what little I've heard.

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Re: Megadeth pre RISK vs Megadeth post RISK if you've heard Never Dead that is the best track on the album, apart from that really it's only Sudden Death that's even remotely notable, and that really just got thrown in because of fans complaining they had either buy the single or one of those god awful guitar hero games to hear it hey we're agreeing again, Megadeth pre risk far better then Megadeth post risk, of course even the post risk stuff is better then anything Metallica has done since ...And Justice For All. It's funny how musically Megadeth have, in my opinion anyway, always been superior to Metallica and yet Metallica are the better known band

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if you've heard Never Dead that is the best track on the album, apart from that really it's only Sudden Death that's even remotely notable, and that really just got thrown in because of fans complaining they had either buy the single or one of those god awful guitar hero games to hear it hey we're agreeing again, Megadeth pre risk far better then Megadeth post risk, of course even the post risk stuff is better then anything Metallica has done since ...And Justice For All. It's funny how musically Megadeth have, in my opinion anyway, always been superior to Metallica and yet Metallica are the better known band
Metallica stopped being good after the Black album. I think it's a great album and always will. They were heavier than Megadeth and more accessible, especially as they "progressed". With the exception of Risk, everything Megadeth has done has been superior to anything Metallica's done post Black album.
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Re: Megadeth pre RISK vs Megadeth post RISK I dunno I never really liked the black album as a whole, there are some good tracks on there, but there are too many on that album that I didn't like, anyway getting back on topic I think Megadeth really just lost their way after risk and forgot how to make a proper metal record, they got back in the zone with United Abominations and Endgame but now they seem to have lost it again. I'm willing to give them one more chance only because the two albums prior to Th1rt3eN were so good but if Megadeth do another album and its this disappointing I'm completely writing them off

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Re: Megadeth pre RISK vs Megadeth post RISK I'm in agreement with you. The reason they went pop was because Dave was trying to keep Marty. Marty quit the band when Dave told they needed to return to a Heavy Metal sound after Risk. Marty has always been open about disliking Metal (even though it's how he made his name). He's always been into pop and what not. They've gotten better without him. It's a shame that Chris Poland never returned as an active member of the band. He was a great guitarist.

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Re: Megadeth pre RISK vs Megadeth post RISK Poland was probably the best guitarist Megadeth had, well besides Dave of course, but he probably only would have come back if Gar came back (can't be bothered putting his full name in) and in my opinion Nick Menza was probably the best drummer they've had, actually Marty is interviewed in that Global Metal doco I was telling you about in another thread

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Personally, I think that 'Risk' was a pretty good album. I liked the songs Breadline, Crush 'Em, and Insomnia. Yeah, it did change Megadeth's sound in the years to come, but 'Risk' was a good album for Megadeth having the balls to experiment, despite it being an absolute flop, and sounding nothing like earlier works. Same goes for Metallica going with Load, ReLoad, and dare I say, St. Anger. However, all the albums from 'Killing' to 'Youthanasia' had a distinctive sound, which seperated them from Metallica's sound after Dave's departure, and Megadeth's arsenal of songs relied more on guitar oriented work and longer solos. Once 'Cryptic Writings' was released, Megadeth still had their fury which pumped through the veins of each song in the albums prior to 'Cryptic Writings'. Although some of the songs were good on 'Cryptic Writings' and 'Risk' it left little to offer on the way of technicality, and the 'official music video' I've seen for Breadline is absolutely shit. The later albums had a sound which contained the fury of the old albums, but dulled the fury down, to a more "acceptable" sound. Overall, I prefer the older albums prior to 'Risk', however post-'Risk' albums do offer quite the technicality.

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Megadeth pre-'Risk' wins this without much of a battle. 

Sure albums like 'The System Has Failed' and 'Dystopia' have a few decent tracks, but nothing that can stand up to 'Peace Sells', 'So Far So Good So What', 'Rust in Peace', 'Countdown to Extinction', 'Youthanasia' and even the underrated 'Cryptic Writings'. 

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On 21/05/2017 at 7:22 AM, Requiem said:

Megadeth pre-'Risk' wins this without much of a battle. 

Sure albums like 'The System Has Failed' and 'Dystopia' have a few decent tracks, but nothing that can stand up to 'Peace Sells', 'So Far So Good So What', 'Rust in Peace', 'Countdown to Extinction', 'Youthanasia' and even the underrated 'Cryptic Writings'. 

Yeah, I would agree with that, most of the good post-Risk albums are only about as good as Cryptic Writings, with around two good songs each.

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