What's on your mind?

[RelentlessOblivion]

Meanwhile A chorus can ringing around the nation from anyone with more than one tooth in their mouth, anyone but Collingwood.

[AlSymerz]

Are Collingwood actually in contention?

Shit Collingwood winning would be like letting the Eels win the rugby, the world is just not ready for such acts of dumbarsery

[RelentlessOblivion]

The Collywobbles are one win from the grand final. Beat the Swans and they’d play Geelong or Brisbane for the cup.

[AlSymerz]

It's amazing how easy it is to be a Victorian and not actually hear any AFL news.

All I can say about Collingwood winning the cup is that thank god I don't live anywhere near the city if it happens.

[RelentlessOblivion]

Implying there will be a city left afterwards, isn’t Collingwood winning a premiership one of the signs of the Apocalypse or some shit?

[AlSymerz]

I don't keep track of AFL enough to know who wins and how often but back in the 90's when Collingwood won, it may have been their last win, one of their players killed himself in an alcohol, maybe even drug, fuelled car accident while celebrating the win. I don't know that any team wants that kind of winning luck.

[GoatmasterGeneral]

On 9/9/2022 at 8:09 AM, Thatguy said:

Rugby League. The thinking man's AFL.🙃

Did a little Google research and now I realize why it makes sense that the NSW guy would be an NRL fan while the Victorian and SA dudes would go for the gentrified (sissified?) AFL. (I realize ACT is technically its own separate entity, but it's also located wholly within the boundaries of NSW) Seems to me the AFL is kind of a dumbed down streamlined version of rugby where all they do is kick kick kick. It's lots of scoring but there's no defense, no one trying to rip your head off.

We have these same arguments about our football here in the states. They keep tweaking the rules in both football and basketball over the last decade or two to make things harder on the defense and easier on the offense which promotes more scoring. Casual fans don't understand or care to understand the subtleties and strategies of defensive play, they think that shit's "boring" they'd much rather just see a lot of scoring. They're happy when they see teams posting final scores in the 30's or even 40's. Old school guys like me love to see a smash-mouth defensive battle where the final score could be 14 - 10 or 10 - 7 or something. But the league and the owners make more money to pay the players their astronomical hundreds of million dollar salary packages if they can get lots of women and casuals interested in watching the games which grows the league bigger, so more offense it is.

Not much different really than the music industry where the less accessible more aggressive violent forms of music generally have lower interest and lower sales, but when they can water the music down and make it more appealing to girls and casuals, suddenly some of these commercial bands can generate hundreds of millions of dollars to make everyone involved filthy rich.

[RelentlessOblivion]

Back in 2010 when they won last time I know the premiership cup went missing for about six days because one of the players forgot it in the back of the taxi they got kicked out of, somethings never change.

 

also in not so fun news it’s been all but confirmed what I thought well migraine related issues are instead most likely chronic pain due to nerve damage. CAT Scan next week should confirm the titanium plate holding the left side of my face together is still perfectly know which would be all the confirmation the surgeon needs, damn Siri specialist not surgeon.

[AlSymerz]

The one thing AFL has going for it (as far as I'm concerned) is that it's an Australian invention that has spread around the country and surrounding islands. It might well be based on other sports, it might even have blatantly stolen game plays from other sports but it's ours.

Rugby has never really made it into other states, they play games interstate but many fans hate that it happens. Even 20 odd years after opening it up to a third state and opening it up to the Kiwis, there is many fans who still think NRL played by any state other than NSW and QLD is a travesty. Strangely enough there is less hatred for the Kiwi team than there is for the interstate team.

Unlike the NRL fans, and commentators, that don't like sharing the AFL are happy to share it around the states. They still don't particularly like interstate teams taking the cup away from Victoria or stealing local players, but they accept it has to happen to have a 'national' game which the NRL can't claim to be. The fact that several interstate teams in the AFL are actually teams that originated in Melbourne still hurts some people too. For instance fans that still support Sydney Swans but refuse to called them anything other than Fitzroy Bloods, but in general it hurts less than a team like Fremantle or Adelaide actually taking the cup home.

The argument about defence isn't really there because every sport needs defenders of some sort and it wasn't that long ago that our AFL was advertised with NFL players commenting about how rough and tough AFL really is. About how the tackles are done without padding and safety gear, about how the players leap in the air higher and how the players kick longer. Sure those players got paid to say those things but to suggests that there is less defence is not really understanding the sport. It's like saying that there is no skill in soccer because they have nil all draws.

 

14 minutes ago, RelentlessOblivion said:

Back in 2010 when they won last time I know the premiership cup went missing for about six days because one of the players forgot it in the back of the taxi they got kicked out of, somethings never change.

 

 

Oh yeah I think I remember that now. The premiership when Darren Millaine killed himself was about 92 I think. But I have no idea how many other times they've won.

 

[Thatguy]

2 hours ago, KillaKukumba said:

About how the tackles are done without padding and safety gear, about how the players leap in the air higher and how the players kick longer

That's not tackling. But they do leap impressively.

 

4 hours ago, KillaKukumba said:

would be like letting the Eels win the rugby, the world is just not ready for such acts of dumbarsery

Fuck youse all.

[AlSymerz]

4 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

That's not tackling. But they do leap impressively.

What is tackling then?

4 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

Fuck youse all.

Told you fishing with Eels as bait works!

[GoatmasterGeneral]

27 minutes ago, KillaKukumba said:

What is tackling then?

I don't know nuthin' 'bout no rugbies or no Aussie sporting stuff or oblong shaped ballz or nuthin' like that 'cause I'm just a dumb ole Yank from the other side of the world.

BUT, it sounds to me like he's saying the AFL poofs don't hit as hard as them big islander boys of the NRL. AFLers seem to be hugging each other while in NRL play dudes will take you right down to the ground and 6 of his buddies pile on top of the both you like 100 times a game. 

But that's just a wild guess. I've never even seen an AFL game, only a few minutes of highlights.

[AlSymerz]

I know what he's saying, it's pretty much what all NRL fans say about AFL and in turn what NFL fans here say about NRL. Usually AFL fans retaliate with something about grown men hugging each other and sticking their heads up each others butts.

I was just being fair and giving Doc the chance to say something else silly that I could hang shit on.

 

[Thatguy]

15 minutes ago, KillaKukumba said:

I was just being fair and giving Doc the chance to say something else silly that I could hang shit on.

I re-iterate.

Fuck youse all.

[GoatmasterGeneral]

Doc is as you know a man who naturally leans toward reticence. He is not demonstrative. He is economical to the point of being frugal with his words. You got a "fuck youse all" out of him, I'd call that a win.

EDIT: make that two fuck youse all's now. 

[AlSymerz]

Third times a charm

 

[GoatmasterGeneral]

2 minutes ago, KillaKukumba said:

Third times a charm

Haha and I was on his side of the whole rugby thing too! Thought I'd be able to escape his wrath tonight but then my Fallujah comment on the other thread tripped me up.

[AlSymerz]

I hadn't picked a side yet, I was just picking on Doc.

I wonder if there is a tipping point, or if he's past it already.

 

[GoatmasterGeneral]

3:30 now he's taking his afternoon nap.

[AlSymerz]

The nurse will wake him for dinner at 4:30, I hope he's not too grumpy.

[Thatguy]

OK, chuckleheads, that's enough now.

Rugby League is not 'Rugby'. RL is the sport of working class heroes and distills the essence of rugby skills into their quintessential form. Rugby is a poor spectacle and plagued by technical and stupid rules. AFL is the sport of those who don't know any better.

But it's all footie, and it gives young men (and women if they are so inclined) an outlet for physical exuberance and entertains sad old bastards like me.

I should think the Orca know that 'fuck youse all' is the Aussie way of saying that you are naughty boys, but I'm still smiling.

Bunnies vs Chooks was an ugly game. It set a record for the number of send offs. Two very naughty boys were sent off twice. Poor old Chooks lost their captain and best player to a head knock early in the first half and they were rooted. Bunnies won and will whip Sharkies next week I should say.

Nighty night.

 

[AlSymerz]

Football is football and rarely two codes will meet without some sort of argy bargy happening. The benefit of not caring too much about any of them is that it's easy to throw crap at all of them. But it's the sad old bastards like you that make shit stirring fun.

I hope the nurse came and tucked you into bed tightly so that you had a comfortable night.

[RelentlessOblivion]

Poor guy, must be the senility kicking in, I can offer no alternate explanation for badmouthing Australia’s very own sport. One of the oldest in fact with deep roots in Indigenous culture. Anyway I’ll just park that age old debate for now.

[AlSymerz]

Let's not talk about his parking!

 

[Sheol]

On 9/9/2022 at 11:35 PM, KillaKukumba said:

I'm not sure thinking is a requirement for either sport, let alone the spectators.

Eh, snooker would like to have a word. Then again, that's boring as shit so there's that....

Also, I couldn't imagine a more boring way to spend a minute of my life than watching sports.

 

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