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36 minutes ago, Balor said:

I finished a short song, and will try to record soon.  Any tips?  It's my first time recording.  I was planning on using a small digital tape recorder.

A few lessons I've learned in my adventures:

You can never be too anal with your takes, the magic happens in the recording phase (not the mixing).

Make sure you're happy with your tone before you start (you don't want to find out it's too weak later).

In some situations, your optimal live tone may be different than your optimal recording tone.

You may require different guitar tones for different jobs, even if this would be impossible live.

Mic placement matters.  Recording space matters.

You can tie a sock around the low end of the neck when string noise is really pissing you off.

Use a click track. May different ones if you need them.

 

Some if this stuff may seem obvious, but some of this stuff I learned the hard way (so clearly I was dumb enough to not know some of this stuff).

I don't know exactly how much of this is likely to apply (if for instance, you're making murky black metal drenched in noise, I doubt you give much of a shit about string noise or subtle tone differences caused by mic placement).

Why use a digital tape recorder, kvlt cred?

Looking forward to hearing the product.

 

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So in the course of randomly looking on youtube at live performances I stumbled across a video of Candlemass covering 'Sad But True'. Now I think Metallica were trying to go doom but the studio told them no because honestly Candlemass' version kind of rocks. Hmm I wonder what classic MDB covering that would have sounded like...

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Finnish copyright organisation Teosto is negotiating with youtube and therefore a huge chunk of music is blocked in my country. Talk about an annoyance! Teosto is an organisation supposedly there to support the artists, but in Finland we have payed forever ie. when buying empty cd´s or tapes etc. because "It´s possible to burn/copy music to them". It´s like being fined because you might commit a crime! Supposedly we get them unblocked on friday, but it is rather worrying turn of events anyhow. :( 

1 hour ago, RelentlessOblivion said:

So in the course of randomly looking on youtube at live performances I stumbled across a video of Candlemass covering 'Sad But True'. Now I think Metallica were trying to go doom but the studio told them no because honestly Candlemass' version kind of rocks. Hmm I wonder what classic MDB covering that would have sounded like...

Did you mean this one? it´s great. :D 

 

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Oh god fucking DAMN!!! Sinister, MDB, Incantation, Inquisition, Ruins Of Beverast, Evoken, Dodhelmsgard, Master's Hammer, Bloodbath, Dusk, just a few of the bands at MDF next year.

 

That's it my birthday present to myself for 2019 is to hit up MDF that year. Yet to see a line-up without at least five bands I want to see.

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5 hours ago, ChainsawAkimbo said:

Finnish copyright organisation Teosto is negotiating with youtube and therefore a huge chunk of music is blocked in my country. Talk about an annoyance!

Turns out that Youtube is the bad egg here. Apparently the artists themselves aren´t really getting much of it at all, comparing ie. to Spotify. It´s a battle thats been going on for quite a while between artists (well, record labels) and youtube. 

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13 hours ago, Will said:

A few lessons I've learned in my adventures:

You can never be too anal with your takes, the magic happens in the recording phase (not the mixing).

Make sure you're happy with your tone before you start (you don't want to find out it's too weak later).

In some situations, your optimal live tone may be different than your optimal recording tone.

You may require different guitar tones for different jobs, even if this would be impossible live.

Mic placement matters.  Recording space matters.

You can tie a sock around the low end of the neck when string noise is really pissing you off.

Use a click track. May different ones if you need them.

 

Some if this stuff may seem obvious, but some of this stuff I learned the hard way (so clearly I was dumb enough to not know some of this stuff).

I don't know exactly how much of this is likely to apply (if for instance, you're making murky black metal drenched in noise, I doubt you give much of a shit about string noise or subtle tone differences caused by mic placement).

Why use a digital tape recorder, kvlt cred?

Looking forward to hearing the product.

 

Thanks for the advice.

I am using the tape recorder for a few reasons.  One, as you mentioned, is that it will help to create a raw sound, which I want.  Second, I have nothing else to record with, and would prefer to not pay to go to a recording studio - at least not yet (it is my first time writing music/recording, after all).

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Oh god fucking DAMN!!! Sinister, MDB, Incantation, Inquisition, Ruins Of Beverast, Evoken, Dodhelmsgard, Master's Hammer, Bloodbath, Dusk, just a few of the bands at MDF next year.
 
That's it my birthday present to myself for 2019 is to hit up MDF that year. Yet to see a line-up without at least five bands I want to see.
Wow, I've seen most of those, but the ones I have seen were great and the others are supremely tantalizing. Now let's just see some money magically fall into my lap...

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Wow, I've seen most of those, but the ones I have seen were great and the others are supremely tantalizing. Now let's just see some money magically fall into my lap...

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Fuck, add Eyehategod, Blood Incantation, Baptism, Chthe'ilist, Dødheimsgard, Sadistic Intent, Zemial, Darkspace, and Opera IX to the list, and you have a hell of a lineup.

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25 minutes ago, RelentlessOblivion said:

Getting a really nice tone from my amp right now, half an hour of messing with the volume and tone knobs of my guitar, pre- and post- gain on the amp and reverb. Worth every second.

I demand details! :D What amp and guitar? What sort of tone were you looking for? etc. :P 

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Guitar is a Dean ML with EMG 83/85 active pickups tuned to C# standard. Amp is a Peavey Envoy 110, a quality mid-level practice amp. The tone I was after (and got) is thick, slightly murky, somewhere between Asphyx-esque and Cathedral-esque. I think I might be able to add some extra depth by messing around with a multi-effects unit I bought a little while ago and recently found again.

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On 30/11/2017 at 5:46 PM, RelentlessOblivion said:

So in the course of randomly looking on youtube at live performances I stumbled across a video of Candlemass covering 'Sad But True'. Now I think Metallica were trying to go doom but the studio told them no because honestly Candlemass' version kind of rocks. Hmm I wonder what classic MDB covering that would have sounded like...

Best 'use' of 'Sad But True' right here. Best video ever too. 

 

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Our Christmas tree went up yesterday, evilly. I've got an (infernal) reindeer, (nekro) candy cane lights and (malevolent) fairy lights for the front garden which will go in once this rain event has passed. With (vampiric) children in the house Christmas has become rather a big production (of doom). 

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I'm at my wife's grandpa's house right now, watching him slowly die hooked to his oxygen machine. It reminds me of when my grandpa died when I was 9, seeing him take his last breaths with the assistance of a machine and without being conscious. I was worried that would be the case, but it honestly made me feel less than I thought rather than more. It has also put me more at ease about my friend's recent death, reminding me that it comes for us all. There's a comfort washing over me as I realize that the bullshit all checks out with you, resting in peace isn't really a wish for those departing so much as it is the only option they're afforded. I'm happy for him in a lot of ways and kind of jealous, maybe the sadness people feel with death isn't out of a desire for them to stay, but rather for us to join them. I'm kind of sick and that's probably all nonsense, I'm not even sure why I'm writing this to be honest since there's no point hidden among my rambling.

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39 minutes ago, BlutAusNerd said:

I'm at my wife's grandpa's house right now, watching him slowly die hooked to his oxygen machine. It reminds me of when my grandpa died when I was 9, seeing him take his last breaths with the assistance of a machine and without being conscious. I was worried that would be the case, but it honestly made me feel less than I thought rather than more. It has also put me more at ease about my friend's recent death, reminding me that it comes for us all. There's a comfort washing over me as I realize that the bullshit all checks out with you, resting in peace isn't really a wish for those departing so much as it is the only option they're afforded. I'm happy for him in a lot of ways and kind of jealous, maybe the sadness people feel with death isn't out of a desire for them to stay, but rather for us to join them. I'm kind of sick and that's probably all nonsense, I'm not even sure why I'm writing this to be honest since there's no point hidden among my rambling.

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Thanks for sharing your experience, in any case. I'm sorry your family is going through that, but I'm glad for you that you're finding some kind of peace in the moment. Death and loss are so complex and personal. This hits close to home for me; I've made a lot of art and music trying to process my own somewhat similar experiences. I still remember watching my dad's father waste away at home and in a hospital, and I'm sad but grateful about the last conversation I had with my mom's father when he was dying. I hope for the best for you and your family, you guys are in my thoughts.

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1 hour ago, BlutAusNerd said:

I'm at my wife's grandpa's house right now, watching him slowly die hooked to his oxygen machine. It reminds me of when my grandpa died when I was 9, seeing him take his last breaths with the assistance of a machine and without being conscious. I was worried that would be the case, but it honestly made me feel less than I thought rather than more. It has also put me more at ease about my friend's recent death, reminding me that it comes for us all. There's a comfort washing over me as I realize that the bullshit all checks out with you, resting in peace isn't really a wish for those departing so much as it is the only option they're afforded. I'm happy for him in a lot of ways and kind of jealous, maybe the sadness people feel with death isn't out of a desire for them to stay, but rather for us to join them. I'm kind of sick and that's probably all nonsense, I'm not even sure why I'm writing this to be honest since there's no point hidden among my rambling.

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My thoughts are you with ban same thing happen back in 2013 when I lost my grandfather he was in hospice died from blood infection shock then my grandmother die six weeks later it was rough on me 

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Thanks for sharing your experience, in any case. I'm sorry your family is going through that, but I'm glad for you that you're finding some kind of peace in the moment. Death and loss are so complex and personal. This hits close to home for me; I've made a lot of art and music trying to process my own somewhat similar experiences. I still remember watching my dad's father waste away at home and in a hospital, and I'm sad but grateful about the last conversation I had with my mom's father when he was dying. I hope for the best for you and your family, you guys are in my thoughts.
Sounds like you've had similar experiences to mine. It can be really tough, especially if you're close with them. I don't know that I would say that I was close with my wife's grandpa, but I did work with him for a lot of years, so it's weird to see him this way. It has been coming for a while, I can't believe how long he has suffered, so I'll be relieved to hear that it has ended.

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My sister died of cancer few years ago, she turned only 27 just before. I worked for few months as a hired assistant to her allowing some more time living home instead of a facility. She had 2 small children too. My father died only couple months before my sister (being a heavy drinker it was sudden and came surprisingly early). Everyone has to deal with death, yet it is a concept that everyone sort of has to figure out on their own. The most important thing to remember is that it gets better. I can understand envying the dead. They have no more worries..

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I have lost people close to me, nearly all of them to fucking cancer.  I don’t fear death but nor do I particularly want it, I know when it comes all the bullshit, bollocks and hateful things in the world that trouble me are entirely everyone else’s problem.  I can see the envy of death being discussed here but can’t ever put into to words the agonising loss and dense emptiness left when someone you love passes away.  I am sorry to hear of everyone’s loss who has shared in this thread.

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We got the text this morning stating that he's gone. My wife is broken up about it, but I am still feeling envious in some ways. At least everyone will contend with it at some point and none of us will be skipped. He was suffering and had fucked up a lot of things in his life, and now all of that is over.

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