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No' date=' but I once had banana beer once, since they had it in our youth house (=cafetaria designated for the youth) as a beer of the month. If anyone ever sees something like that in the store, don't. Just don't.[/quote']HAHA...that is strange...I actually saw a banana kind right next to the toffee kind and I was thinking of trying that as well...as I love bananas more than anything in life. =D
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I never really tasted American beer. But if you're into Belgian beers: La chouffe' date=' Westmalle dubbel/triper (dubbel's my favorite) and Lam Gods are probably my favorites. Is Belgian beer available on a big scale where you live or in general, just wondering? Also, what the **** is an 'American Belgian beer'?[/quote'] Yes, we get a fair amount of it, though it's pretty expensive. I haven't had (or ever heard of) Lam Gods but I like the others, especially Houblon Chouffe, as well as Corsendonk brown (dubbel), Orval, some others I can't recall right now, and some Cantillon lambics. Unfortunately, some of it doesn't arrive here in very good condition. A lot of craft brewers here have used Belgian yeast, some in an attempt to reproduce Belgian ales and some just for their flavor characteristics in non-traditional hybrids, with varying degrees of success. I like the "Belgian yeast" offering from White Birch, but I'm typically unconvinced by most aside from the stuff from Unibroue, and a couple of things I tried from Brasserie Dieu du Ciel (both Canadian).
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Yes, we get a fair amount of it, though it's pretty expensive. I haven't had (or ever heard of) Lam Gods but I like the others, especially Houblon Chouffe, as well as Corsendonk brown (dubbel), Orval, some others I can't recall right now, and some Cantillon lambics. Unfortunately, some of it doesn't arrive here in very good condition. A lot of craft brewers here have used Belgian yeast, some in an attempt to reproduce Belgian ales and some just for their flavor characteristics in non-traditional hybrids, with varying degrees of success. I like the "Belgian yeast" offering from White Birch, but I'm typically unconvinced by most aside from the stuff from Unibroue, and a couple of things I tried from Brasserie Dieu du Ciel (both Canadian).
I don't drink alcohol a lot, so I haven't tasted some of the beers mentioned, although I've heard of most. As for Orval and Lam Gods, I'm not really into the one and it would have amazed me if they had the other abroad, although you never know; Lam Gods is a beer which is inherent to Sint-Laureins, a countryside municipality next to Eeklo. It's a dark beer and I don't remember it too well, but I recall thinking it tasted really good. As for the 'American Belgian beer', almost all if not all beer sold here is Belgian (eg. Maes, Westmalle, Leffe...). I haven't tasted a lot of foreign beer, except for some Dutch beer (Grolsch) and some obscure Italian beer served in a western-themed bar we went on a school trip. The point is: I can't really comment.
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Also' date=' what the **** is an 'American Belgian beer'?[/quote'] I assume it's when an American company claims to make beer Belgian-style. I think Fat Tire would count as one of these? My father claims to like that brand a lot, even though he almost never drinks beer... I'm not a fan of beer, but I do like Sapporo beer alright. For whatever reason Japanese ones are the only ones I've really enjoyed so far.
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I assume it's when an American company claims to make beer Belgian-style. I think Fat Tire would count as one of these? My father claims to like that brand a lot, even though he almost never drinks beer... I'm not a fan of beer, but I do like Sapporo beer alright. For whatever reason Japanese ones are the only ones I've really enjoyed so far.
You have assumed correctly. However, despite the brewery that makes Fat Tire naming themselves New Belgium, they don't really qualify. They're mostly a mediocre brewery with a couple of decent beers, and their Belgian styled beers are not among them. As FatherAlabaster said, there are varying degrees of success when it comes to American brewers imitating Belgian beers, but most don't even come close to the originals. Unibroue is Canadian, but the best brewer of Belgian style beers from outside of Belgium, their La Fin Du Monde can go toe to toe with Orval, Westmalle, and Chimay's tripels, and their darker beers are also excellent dubbels and Belgian dark ales, but with much more dark fruit character that makes them difficult to compare directly. I have found a couple of good American beers that do justice to the Belgian style though, Ommegang's dubbel was actually really good, and Boulevard's Long Strange Tripel and Sixth Glass Quad are also excellent. We have a local brewer here that has been winning awards with their Brainless on Peaches beer, which is a tripel style ale modified by aging in a liquor process with peaches, and despite how sickly sweet that sounds, it's actually marvelous. It was difficult for me to believe as well, because the Brainless Belgian that it is based on is one of their worst beers IMO, and I don't much care for peaches, but they've really done something special with that one. Sent from my HTC PH39100 using Tapatalk 2
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You have assumed correctly. However, despite the brewery that makes Fat Tire naming themselves New Belgium, they don't really qualify. They're mostly a mediocre brewery with a couple of decent beers, and their Belgian styled beers are not among them. As FatherAlabaster said, there are varying degrees of success when it comes to American brewers imitating Belgian beers, but most don't even come close to the originals. Unibroue is Canadian, but the best brewer of Belgian style beers from outside of Belgium, their La Fin Du Monde can go toe to toe with Orval, Westmalle, and Chimay's tripels, and their darker beers are also excellent dubbels and Belgian dark ales, but with much more dark fruit character that makes them difficult to compare directly. I have found a couple of good American beers that do justice to the Belgian style though, Ommegang's dubbel was actually really good, and Boulevard's Long Strange Tripel and Sixth Glass Quad are also excellent. We have a local brewer here that has been winning awards with their Brainless on Peaches beer, which is a tripel style ale modified by aging in a liquor process with peaches, and despite how sickly sweet that sounds, it's actually marvelous. It was difficult for me to believe as well, because the Brainless Belgian that it is based on is one of their worst beers IMO, and I don't much care for peaches, but they've really done something special with that one. Sent from my HTC PH39100 using Tapatalk 2
I actually had a tour of the Ommegang brewery about twelve years ago. I didn't care for their beers as much back then, but they've improved since getting bought by Duvel. I'm still not blown away, but they're pretty good. Brooklyn Brewery is actually making some nice beers with Belgian yeast as well - nothing mindblowing, but enjoyable. I don't know where they get off charging $20-$30 for a 750ml bottle, though...
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Fuck off. I pay 10 bucks more then that and get 24 times the amount. At least it was 24 beers. I'm now down to about six.
If you think about it in terms of content, most of those more expensive beers have a higher ABV percentage. I know a lot of people who drink to get drunk, and to me it would make more sense to buy a few beers that are heavy duty and taste amazing than to down a 30 rack of pisswater. Either way, the taste is what cuts it for me, as making a shitty beer stronger wouldn't make me enjoy it more. Sent from my HTC PH39100 using Tapatalk 2
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