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in my personal opinion i like job for a cowboy.... and i dont see anything they have to do with scene kids :L. most jfacb stuff i see is satanic related and i dont think scene kids are into that stuff?
scene kids don't care about the instrumental or lyrical content, they only care about the image that the band has
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scene kids don't care about the instrumental or lyrical content, they only care about the image that the band has
and thats why i thought they wouldnt like it. :L but i think some bands such as job for a cowboy shouldnt be shunned just because the scene kids listen to it. why should we let them ruin music for us?
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Re: Deathcore Every hardcore pit I've ever been in has been more intense infinitely than any metal pit, they smash you, crowdkill, and punch you in practically every area of your body during the mosh section. Metal pits consist of little more than dull push moshing and the drunken circle pit I've seen you long haired Europeans do :D , come to the US and see Blood for Blood or Weekend Nachos if you want to see what a real pit is.

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I avoid pits. For good reason' date=' too.[/quote'] Something I did always worry about with metal gigs. Have you been to any relatively civilized metal concerts? As for deathcore, I cannot say much as I don't have much experience. I've heard Oceano, Whitechapel and Chelsea Grin and they seem to be a cheesy variant of death metal.
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Re: Deathcore Actually, now that I think about it, I have been to some pretty chill metal concerts, but I always avoid the pit on the off chance something stupid might happen. *shrugs* If there's no pit near the front, you'll probably find me there. If there is, I'll likely be off to the side, or some place right outside of it. Those deathcore bands you listed aren't my thing either.

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Re: Deathcore About Job for a Cowboy I don't like them because they are too generic deathcore for me. Not because of scene kids. Scene kids just tend to follow the most popular names, and JFAC was one of the very first deathcore bands scene kids got into en masse.

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since all the death and metalcore I've encountered has totally sucked goat balls I have no interest in these genres, pop choruses, the most basic riffs imaginable and horrifically bad vocals combined with uninspired lyrics and generally dull drumwork is a recipe for boring music not quality

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Whitechapel is a disgrace to metal. That's all I have to say about that shit hole labeled as a fucking band. BMTH is okay, but their vocalist sounds like a little bitch. A deathcore band my girlfriend recently showed me, I actually really enjoy. I hardly ever like any deathcore. The band is Winds of Plague. Give 'em a listen.

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Whitechapel is a disgrace to metal. That's all I have to say about that shit hole labeled as a fucking band. BMTH is okay, but their vocalist sounds like a little bitch. A deathcore band my girlfriend recently showed me, I actually really enjoy. I hardly ever like any deathcore. The band is Winds of Plague. Give 'em a listen.
The only difference between Winds of Plague and any other deathcore band are some half assed melodic black metal riffs, which don't do them any favors. Sent from my HTC PH39100 using Tapatalk 2
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You are such a musical elitist. I say, if music sounds good, it sounds good, and I want to listen to it. Even though I just completely dissed Whitechapel, I've actually started really liking them recently. IF ONLY THEY WEREN'T REMOVED FROM SPOTIFY LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE FROM METAL BLADE RECORDS.
Interesting, as I follow the same principle you listed directly below your assumption, that of "if the music sounds good, it sounds good". I don't think that "BREE BREE" pig squeal vocals and endless breakdowns sound good, which are two of the defining characteristics of deathcore, so I can say as I blanket statement that I don't think that deathcore sounds good. The very few things that they could have done well were done much better by the bands that many of them have stolen riffs from, like Suffocation and Dying Fetus. I find that most pop-flavored metal music carries that same vapid lack of anything worthwhile that wasn't plagiarized, and is typically mixed with lame techniques that are lazy excuses for song/riff writing. Do I like stuff that gets me shit from others? Sure, because I think stuff like Johnny Cash, Pink Floyd, Dragonforce, Manowar, Dimmu Borgir, Cradle of Filth, Children of Bodom, and various classic rock bands sound good, so I would have a hard time calling myself and elitist since I get shit from those people too. If you don't like what I have to say, that's fine, I'm not going to change who I am and what I like for anyone, especially somebody I don't even know calling me an elitist on the internet. Nobody ever said that you have to stop listening to deathcore, so you should grow some thicker skin and have a little more security in your taste in music.
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Winds of Plague never had any bm elements in their music, other than that bull dike they had that played keyboards for them in 09. Before they became fodder for wiggercore homos, they were a melodic death metal influenced hardcore band. Yeah, they're absolute queers now- but their first album was fairly innovative for its time compared to the eye-liner wearing transvestites that plagued the metalcore scene. Manowar are also incredibly shit

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Interesting, as I follow the same principle you listed directly below your assumption, that of "if the music sounds good, it sounds good". I don't think that "BREE BREE" pig squeal vocals and endless breakdowns sound good, which are two of the defining characteristics of deathcore, so I can say as I blanket statement that I don't think that deathcore sounds good. The very few things that they could have done well were done much better by the bands that many of them have stolen riffs from, like Suffocation and Dying Fetus. I find that most pop-flavored metal music carries that same vapid lack of anything worthwhile that wasn't plagiarized, and is typically mixed with lame techniques that are lazy excuses for song/riff writing. Do I like stuff that gets me shit from others? Sure, because I think stuff like Johnny Cash, Pink Floyd, Dragonforce, Manowar, Dimmu Borgir, Cradle of Filth, Children of Bodom, and various classic rock bands sound good, so I would have a hard time calling myself and elitist since I get shit from those people too. If you don't like what I have to say, that's fine, I'm not going to change who I am and what I like for anyone, especially somebody I don't even know calling me an elitist on the internet. Nobody ever said that you have to stop listening to deathcore, so you should grow some thicker skin and have a little more security in your taste in music.
Lighten up man, it was just a joke. I've tried listening to Dying Fetus and Suffocation and both of them sound like utter shit in my ears. I like Winds of Plague because of their half-assed melodic riffs and adrenaline-filled music. Playing Diablo 3 and having a heavy melodic song chant "EVIL FUCKING FEARS ME" is pretty awesome. I like whitechapel because of how angry and heavy they are. And there's not a thing wrong with Children of Bodom, Cradle of Filth, and especially nothing wrong with Pink Floyd. If we're talking about things we get shit for, I listen to metalcore, deathcore, Dead By April, Escape The Fate, Three Days Grace, and Hollywood Undead.
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