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3 hours ago, GoatmasterGeneral said:

Bauhaus - The Sky's Gone Out, 1982, I've never actually heard these guys before, just picked an album at random and this don't sound nothing like what I thought it would (was thinking like a slower and more suicidal Sisters of Mercy) they're just a rock band. Kinda reminds me of that Love & Rockets band if anyone's familiar. (how stupid do I feel to look up L&R and learn they were formed from Bauhaus members after the breakup. No wonder they sound like themselves)  But even still, I think I kinda like this. It'd probably be even better if he didn't sound like the dude from the B-52's in spots.

 

 

I'm frequently amazed to see the bands people discover for the first time many decades after their high period. I'm not taking about people who weren't alive when a band was active, but someone like you who lived through it. I can see just not being into it then, but never heard of them? Bauhaus was pretty well known. I would have thought you would have run across them along the way. They are foundational to the goth scene in the same way as Sisters, The Cure, Echo and the Bunnymen...

This is by far their most famous:

Bella Lugosi's Dead

 

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Ok, so the GG discovering Bauhaus combined with having to go to work tomorrow has me in the mood.

Sisters of Mercy - Floodland & First, Last, Always

Siouxsie and the Banshees - The Scream

Bauhaus - In A Flat Field & The Sky's Gone Out

Fields of Nephilim - Dawnrazor & Elizium

Christian Death - Only Theater of Pain

Alien Sex Fiend - Best of

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3 hours ago, navybsn said:

I'm frequently amazed to see the bands people discover for the first time many decades after their high period. I'm not taking about people who weren't alive when a band was active, but someone like you who lived through it. I can see just not being into it then, but never heard of them? Bauhaus was pretty well known. I would have thought you would have run across them along the way. They are foundational to the goth scene in the same way as Sisters, The Cure, Echo and the Bunnymen...

I didn't say I'd never heard of them, just that I had never actually heard their music. Back in the 80's when they were active I was quite literally a metal only dude. My best friend was into some new wave and post punk stuff back then in addition to the metal we shared so I heard some stuff outside of metal by way of him, but Bauhaus wasn't one of the bands he exposed me to. They weren't a band that got any mainstream NY radio play back then unless they were playing them on the new wave station, but as you can imagine I didn't ever tune into that station. But I mean of course I'm familiar with the name Bauhaus, just not their music. I think I remember my little sister (who's a year older than Mark) mentioning she was into them as she and all her friends were on stage crew so they listened to all that new wave 'n stuff like that, (that's what they called it back then) but I was off doing my own headbanging thing by then. No one was speaking or writing about Bauhaus as if they were any kind of a metal band so they got filed under sorry not metal so I don't care.

Now today I checked them out and they were not at all what I had decided they'd be over the years. Funny how your brain will conjure up a sound for a band you've never heard if they have a well known name. I didn't hate them at all but still they're not really my thing, I wouldn't buy it. I only heard the one album and a few live tracks from their first album, and I've gotta say I have no idea what they have to do with goth. Unless I'm just not understanding what goth is. I get why Sisters of Mercy are associated with goth, but Bauhaus was just a rock band, I heard nothing "gothy" happening there.

I hadn't heard the Cure until very recently either, another band I obviously know their name but not the music. Except when I checked them out I realized that one song I knew from the radio (Friday I'm in Love) was them, that I hadn't ever know was them. I'm sure there are other bands from the 80's that weren't metal so I know their names but haven't heard their music. Aren't there any well known bands that you know their names but you've never actually knowingly heard their music? Am I the only one this happens to? You mention Echo and the Bunnymen, there's another one. I know the name but I have no idea what they might sound like. Same as half the bands from Navy's post right above me here. 

 

NP: Tragedy - Nerve Damage, 2006

 

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OK, I'll weigh in on Bauhaus. Far be it from me to defend the GG as we have somewhat, er, divergent metal musical paths, I've never actively listened to Bauhaus either. I am definitely familiar with their name. Never listened to Echo and the Bunnymen. Never listened to Siouxsie and the banshees. Never listened to Roxy Music. In fact, the first time I'd ever heard of the Sisters of Mercy was when GG posted about them. 

Of course I've heard The Cure, New Order and The Smiths, etc. because they were on the radio but I hated pretty much any music that I thought as pop. I put them in the same box as Madonna and Cyndi Lauper, A ha, Duran Duran, Tears for Fears. I'm sure there were a lot of talented artists, but I detested all those bands.

Later, I turned onto bands like Dino Jr and I like them because they were more guitar driven.   I was all about AC/DC, the well known NWOBHM and hair metal, GNR, the big 4 and some grunge. I did like stuff like Jane's Addiction and I've posted quite a bit about Joy Division but only because a friend handed me a tape and said-listen to this. Earlier, when I was in middle school, I did enjoy bands like Violent Femmes, B-52's Rock Lobster, Elvis Costello and Blondie but generally avoided anything that had a whiff of modern rock or alternative until the 90's. Back then there was much less mixing of peanut butter and chocolate. 

And remember, I'm the guy who has never been a card carrying "metal head". 

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1 hour ago, GoatmasterGeneral said:

I'm just not understanding what goth is

Goth, like Punk is more about attitude and style than solely music. Dreary, morbid, romanticism. Like the literary movement of the same name. Bauhaus was very influential in establishing the sound. There's tons of stuff I could throw in here, but I get it's not your thing. 

40 minutes ago, markm said:

OK, I'll weigh in on Bauhaus. Far be it from me to defend the GG as we have somewhat, er, divergent metal musical paths, I've never actively listened to Bauhaus either. I am definitely familiar with their name. Never listened to Echo and the Bunnymen. Never listened to Siouxsie and the banshees. Never listened to Roxy Music. In fact, the first time I'd ever heard of the Sisters of Mercy was when GG posted about them. 

Of course I've heard The Cure, New Order and The Smiths, etc. because they were on the radio but I hated pretty much any music that I thought as pop. I put them in the same box as Madonna and Cyndi Lauper, A ha, Duran Duran, Tears for Fears. I'm sure there were a lot of talented artists, but I detested all those bands.

2 hours ago, GoatmasterGeneral said:

 

 

I guess you guys a few years older were where I was when grunge came out when goth/post-punk hit your generation. I couldn't gaf about grunge back in the day. I was ass deep in Morbid Angel, Obituary, Death, Possessed... Still don't know half the bands that were just below the really popular ones.

First record I ever bought was a 45 of Hungry Like the Wolf. I guess I was about 8.

Anyway, for the sake of those not bothering to look:

Echo and the Bunnymen - The Killing Noon

Siouxsie and the Banshees - Cities in Dust

 

2 hours ago, GoatmasterGeneral said:

Aren't there any well known bands that you know their names but you've never actually knowingly heard their music?

I never listened to Nirvana until recently when I discovered the Wipers and figured out Cobain just stole all of Greg Sage's riffs and added some distortion. They slap as a cover band. I mean I had heard them on the radio but never listened to anything beyond that. I'm pretty liberal with my music adventurism. I've heard pretty much everything. Between 3 sisters growing up, a wife and daughter, and growing up in redneck hell, can't think of much that has escaped my earholes along the way.

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We had some Siouxie and the Banshees records floating around. I'm not really sure what genre I would've put Siouxie in but my buddy was into them, used to play them a lot so I know them at least. Not sure when the term "goth" was coined but I know we didn't use it in the early 80's. Maybe they did in the UK. It was all just 'new wave' to us, I didn't even hear the term 'post-punk' til later in the 80's. (not that I knew what it meant)

 

Siouxsie and the Banshees - Juju, 1981

 

 

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2 hours ago, markm said:

Listening to the new Cloud Rat getting ready for work, probably not the best choice as you're waking up-enjoyed their last one, not feeling the current album atm. I've learned not to always trust my first impression. Will give it another go at some point. 

Yeah, I revisit Pollinator fairly often, but can't seem to get into the new one.

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Dream Unending - Song Of Salvation   ...third time through maybe? Not feeling this. Too much atmospheric stuff, the songwriting doesn't find a focus, the riffs aren't that engaging and sound underbaked, everything feels a bit noodly and stream of consciousness... Too much gravy and not enough meat. There are moments that come together well but on the whole it falls flat. Would be super cool to hear something more compelling from this project next time around.

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2 hours ago, FatherAlabaster said:

Dream Unending - Song Of Salvation   ...third time through maybe? Not feeling this. Too much atmospheric stuff, the songwriting doesn't find a focus, the riffs aren't that engaging and sound underbaked, everything feels a bit noodly and stream of consciousness... Too much gravy and not enough meat. There are moments that come together well but on the whole it falls flat. Would be super cool to hear something more compelling from this project next time around.

Agree. I finally pulled it off my wishlist this weekend as I'm just not compelled to buy it.

This Morning:

Darkthrone - Astral Fortress

Secret Shame - Autonomy

Now playing - Scumstrike - Deadly Intrusions

 

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15 hours ago, navybsn said:

Goth, like Punk is more about attitude and style than solely music. Dreary, morbid, romanticism. Like the literary movement of the same name. Bauhaus was very influential in establishing the sound. There's tons of stuff I could throw in here, but I get it's not your thing. 

I guess you guys a few years older were where I was when grunge came out when goth/post-punk hit your generation. I couldn't gaf about grunge back in the day. I was ass deep in Morbid Angel, Obituary, Death, Possessed... Still don't know half the bands that were just below the really popular ones.

I never listened to Nirvana until recently when I discovered the Wipers and figured out Cobain just stole all of Greg Sage's riffs and added some distortion. They slap as a cover band. I mean I had heard them on the radio but never listened to anything beyond that. I'm pretty liberal with my music adventurism. I've heard pretty much everything. Between 3 sisters growing up, a wife and daughter, and growing up in redneck hell, can't think of much that has escaped my earholes along the way.

Funny, just a few years older or younger like me and GG can make a big difference back when music was changing rapidly, then throw in regional/cultural differences potentially. Much less a decade as between you and I.

I didn't get into Nirvana until well after Nevermind. I'm still not a huge fan but I've got some of their music and definitely respect Cobain's influence. I did like Alice N Chains and Soundgarden a whole lot though.

I sure walled myself off from a lot of music. I think a lot of people form their tastes in middle school. That was 78-80 for me right before alternative became a thing nationwide. I've always felt I had one foot in the classic rock I grew up with and the other in metal and heavier alt rock later. Growing up with tons of Beatles and 60's folk can't be ignored.

And, like there was a lot of music in the ether from The Who, CCR, The DORS, Zeppelin, Sabbath, AC/DC, Skynyrd, The Stones still around in the early 80's.  Some Girls came out in 78. Back In Black was all over the airways when I was a Freshman. 

I liked the first few Costello albums and I always liked The Ramones and The Clash. When I was in high school, I recall hearing at parties- Ramones, Ziggy Stardust era Bowie, Rocky Horror Picture Show, Floyd, Violent Femmes, Devo, R.E.M., and hardcore in the background. But we also had the vestiges of psychadelia and dead heads in the hallways.

I thought punk was garbage until the grunge era. By the time R.E.M got big and alternative rock was getting mass popularity, my tastes were pretty set with AC/DC and Priest and I thought most of the 80's alternative and I guess what you're calling goth and early post punk was for pussies. I was pretty closed minded. 

When I was a Freshman in college, I went to Emerson college for a year in Boston until my Dad yanked me out due to the $14,000 out of state tuition without any real financial aid on his salary. That was 84/85. I was all over hair metal and Accept. I remember seeing local hair metal bands. Saw Twisted Sister with Dokken with this friend who was also into punk. He kept telling me that the he felt the better stuff was in punk. He thought the future was punk/HC with trends in metal. He saw it coming. 

I was pursuing mass communications as a degree and got involved with their radio station. It was mostly post punk, alternative pop and I hated it. The cool kids were all into bands like siouxsie and the banshees and Roxy Music. Of course Prince, Whitney Houston and Michael Jackson were all over the airwaves. 

But there was this one guy who had a popular weekend metal show called Nasty Habits.  He played a lot of underground stuff with a fair amount of hardcore. I started listening to Motor Head. That show hipped me to Metallica.  That's where things started to change.

Then, from 85-90 I went to James Madison University in Virginia and it was alternative non stop with most of my friends. But I never kinned to the folksy R.E.M. sound even though I've always liked actual folk and couldn't be bothered with Sonic Youth. Finally, I guess it was some Pixies and Dinosaur Jr. that opened me up a little more. And Then, Soundgarden's Loud Love.   And stuff like Red Hot Chili Peppers, the album Jane's Addiction and NIN switched things up for me.....but only a little :-)

I'm thinking back in 90-Seasons in the Abyss, Persistence of Time, Slave to the Grind, Lights, Camera, Revolution, The Mind is a Terrible Thing to Taste and Cowboys From Hell got much more ear time than Blood Sugar Sex Magik and Nothing's Shocking

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