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Problem with an RC though is that so few people ever actually get punished. Sure they find fault, sometimes, and they find someone to blame, sometimes, but just because a wrong was found to be committed by an RC doesn't mean charges will be laid or punishment served. RC's are generally just a waste of money, look at the RC's into the Black Saturday fires in 2009/10. There was 180 odd recommendations for everyone from the general public to the councils to the power companies to put in place. By 2020 there was only about 70 of them actually acted upon and most of those weren't even done to the recommendation. 

I'd like to live in hope that the Tassie RC actually achieves something more than just blame but we don't have a good RC record in this country. Didn't the guy responsible for the abuse kill himself a few years ago anyway? I have some recollection of the report talking to one of the instigators of the case on the ABC a month or so back.

 

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3 hours ago, KillaKukumba said:

Problem with an RC though is that so few people ever actually get punished. Sure they find fault, sometimes, and they find someone to blame, sometimes, but just because a wrong was found to be committed by an RC doesn't mean charges will be laid or punishment served. RC's are generally just a waste of money, look at the RC's into the Black Saturday fires in 2009/10. There was 180 odd recommendations for everyone from the general public to the councils to the power companies to put in place. By 2020 there was only about 70 of them actually acted upon and most of those weren't even done to the recommendation. 

I'd like to live in hope that the Tassie RC actually achieves something more than just blame but we don't have a good RC record in this country. Didn't the guy responsible for the abuse kill himself a few years ago anyway? I have some recollection of the report talking to one of the instigators of the case on the ABC a month or so back.

 

NP: Exarsis - Sentenced To Life

Agreed.  Royal Commissions seem to be just a method of washing away problems instead of focusing on legislation or enforcing actual laws.  I've maintained for a while now that Australia has a convoluted very bureaucratic model of government to cover up the fact that there is not much real governance and regulation.  Basically our systems are complicated rubber stamp mechanisms to provide the illusion of regulation.

 

The problem is cultures of cover up as well as lax police attitudes to these kind of crimes.

 

Yes the guy did kill himself but they're now trying to figure out how it could go on for so long despite there being numerous allegations.

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One of the weird things I remember hearing about Tassie law is that victims of sexual abuse are not allowed to name themselves in case it identifies the offender. IIRC one of the girls leading this current case was abused herself back in the 90's, the offender was jailed (and might have since killed himself) but despite winning her case she was not allowed to name herself in the media as the victim.

 

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1 hour ago, KillaKukumba said:

One of the weird things I remember hearing about Tassie law is that victims of sexual abuse are not allowed to name themselves in case it identifies the offender. IIRC one of the girls leading this current case was abused herself back in the 90's, the offender was jailed (and might have since killed himself) but despite winning her case she was not allowed to name herself in the media as the victim.

 

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Possibly.  Lots of our laws are shit and full of loop holes that are easily exploited by scumbags.  My wife works in court support for domestic violence and the system is beyond broken.  They will even arrest and strip search domestic violence victims who don't turn up to court because they are too traumatised to see their tormentors in court.

 

The government is working on banning environmental protests again.  Ironically they also banned Nazi symbols.  Perhaps they should remember that banning protest is a very fascist thing to do.

Basically it's still a place governed by the 19th century.

 

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25 minutes ago, Dead1 said:

Dark Tranquillity - We Are The Void - last album of theirs I liked.

Dismember - Massive Killing Capacity

That's the one where they lost me, I really tried but I couldn't get into it at all when it came out. Haven't heard but a song or two off any of their subsequent albums. Loved the 5 or 6 that came right before that one though. It's been a long time since I spun an entire DT album.

 

Haven't listened to anything from Dismember besides Everflowing Stream in forever. I like them, but have always thought they're a tad overrated. Lots of other 90's dm I like a lot more. Should tonight be the night I revisit these two bands?

 

Dismember - Indecent and Obscene

 

Dark Tranquility - Character

 

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21 minutes ago, GoatmasterGeneral said:

That's the one where they lost me, I really tried but I couldn't get into it at all when it came out. Haven't heard but a song or two off any of their subsequent albums. Loved the 5 or 6 that came right before that one though. It's been a long time since I spun an entire DT album.

 

Haven't listened to anything from Dismember besides Everflowing Stream in forever. I like them, but have always thought they're a tad overrated. Lots of other 90's dm I like a lot more. Should tonight be the night I revisit these two bands?

 

 

 

 

Dark Tranquillity - I ended up doing a cull of my collection and getting rid of albums I found boring.

I only kept the following:

 - The Gallery

- The Mind's I

- Projector

- Damage Done

- Character

- We Are The Void

 

Got rid of Haven, Fiction and Construct.  Never owned Skydancer though I don't mind it..

 

Dismember - yes they are overrated.  Like An Ever Flowing Stream is good but not as awesome as early Entombed.  The other stand out is Massive Killing Capacity which marked the pinnacle of evolution of their style in terms of crunchy melodic death metal.  Death Metal, Hate Campaign, & Indecent and Obscene had some moments here and there.  Everything else was boring and rather tired sounding. 

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58 minutes ago, GoatmasterGeneral said:

That's the one where they lost me, I really tried but I couldn't get into it at all when it came out. Haven't heard but a song or two off any of their subsequent albums.

They lost me at Projector. Went from "I love this band" to "what is this garbage". I even saw them live after that and couldn't get into their set. I still listen to the first 3, and The Gallery is an all time favorite.

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32 minutes ago, FatherAlabaster said:

They lost me at Projector. Went from "I love this band" to "what is this garbage". I even saw them live after that and couldn't get into their set. I still listen to the first 3, and The Gallery is an all time favorite.

Damage Done was a return to form.  Then they repeated Damage Done for 3 more albums and then went goth rock.  

 

Dismember - Indecent & Obscene - Dawns to me I haven't actually listened to this one in 15 odd years.

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