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1 hour ago, True Belief said:

Happy to help!

FWIW, I've got The Warning just below 'Rage For Order' & 'Operation Mindcrime'... it definitely hinted at the huge potential of the band and a couple of moments touched the musical godhead they'd later own, but it's Tate elevating this one above the pack all by himself. To me he 'owns' this album.

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Yeah, we've talked about that before and I agree, the vocals really make it. The songwriting is interesting, too, not just pop/rock structures. The riffs are good, but they don't stand out as much as they would later on.

Hittman - s/t  ...liked this, I can see the early Queensryche comparisons in the riffs, vocal harmonies, and songwriting choices. They're less distinctive and more straightforward, but I could definitely see myself putting this on when I'm in the mood for this kind of sound.

Crimson Glory - s/t  ...my first time through this album, despite seeing the name around here for years. This kicks ass, the guy's voice is amazing.

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1 hour ago, True Belief said: Happy to help!

FWIW, I've got The Warning just below 'Rage For Order' & 'Operation Mindcrime'... it definitely hinted at the huge potential of the band and a couple of moments touched the musical godhead they'd later own, but it's Tate elevating this one above the pack all by himself. To me he 'owns' this album.

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Yeah, we've talked about that before and I agree, the vocals really make it. The songwriting is interesting, too, not just pop/rock structures. The riffs are good, but they don't stand out as much as they would later on.

Hittman - s/t  ...liked this, I can see the early Queensryche comparisons in the riffs, vocal harmonies, and songwriting choices. They're less distinctive and more straightforward, but I could definitely see myself putting this on when I'm in the mood for this kind of sound.

Crimson Glory - s/t  ...my first time through this album, despite seeing the name around here for years. This kicks ass, the guy's voice is amazing.

Check out Crimson Glory's Transcendence, it's even better. Honestly, it's better than Operation: Mindcrime musically, it just doesn't have that amazing narrative.

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39 minutes ago, BlutAusNerd said:

Check out Crimson Glory's Transcendence, it's even better. Honestly, it's better than Operation: Mindcrime musically, it just doesn't have that amazing narrative.

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It's up next. These vocals are killer. I'm really impressed. I haven't been in the mood to explore this style for years, glad I finally followed up on these guys.

NP: Crimson Glory - Transcendence  ...hell yeah. Great stuff.

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9 hours ago, FatherAlabaster said:

It's up next. These vocals are killer. I'm really impressed. I haven't been in the mood to explore this style for years, glad I finally followed up on these guys.

NP: Crimson Glory - Transcendence  ...hell yeah. Great stuff.

One of the remarkable things about metal is that no matter how long you engage with it, there are always new bands to be found who have been around for ages. 

I've always heard the name Crimson Glory but knew nothing about them until I read the above posts. I'm listening to 'Transcendence' now too and it's really good. Youtube. What a love/hate relationship I have with it... With Youtube and wikipedia there is almost unlimited access to bands. Can you imagine back in the early 90s just youtubing any album you wanted and then read about the band and releases on wikipedia? It's pretty good these days to be able to do that, but I'm glad it wasn't like that in my day. 

The metal landscape is just huge and it's great to be finding old classics. 

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5 hours ago, Requiem said:

With Youtube and wikipedia there is almost unlimited access to bands. Can you imagine back in the early 90s just youtubing any album you wanted and then read about the band and releases on wikipedia? It's pretty good these days to be able to do that, but I'm glad it wasn't like that in my day. 

I did like you going into a Independent record store for  music discovery. Where one of the owner would know  you bought Dio  Motorhead  and Iron Maiden  last visit and would play a few wont hear it on the radio bands for you.

If you liked Crimson Glory the singer was also in Saigon Kick. .  Might want  look for other singers taught by Al Koehn.

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Burzum - Belus 

This just stays as my favourite Burzum album, Filosofem is a close second. I´d like to do something that would be a mix of Belus, Dimmus Stormblåst. Gorgoroth and Hecate Enthroned.. without copying of course, but talking about atmosphere. I think in black metal the atmosphere of a song or album is more important than in any other metal genre.. kinda holy grail sort of thing for me which i´d love to nail.

This is one of the greatest songs ever made to me, the atmosphere is something that talks to me at a very personal level.

 

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Burzum - Belus 

This just stays as my favourite Burzum album, Filosofem is a close second. I´d like to do something that would be a mix of Belus, Dimmus Stormblåst. Gorgoroth and Hecate Enthroned.. without copying of course, but talking about atmosphere. I think in black metal the atmosphere of a song or album is more important than in any other metal genre.. kinda holy grail sort of thing for me which i´d love to nail.

This is one of the greatest songs ever made to me, the atmosphere is something that talks to me at a very personal level.

 

Belus, really? I mean, it was a decent comeback effort, but it doesn't even begin to hold a candle to the sublime hypnotic atmosphere and glory of their early albums. It explores some good ideas, but they're nowhere near as profound, so their repetition becomes much more noticeable and tedious by comparison.

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14 minutes ago, RelentlessOblivion said:

Bethlehem - Dark Metal

Tough stuff, that album.

NP: Control Denied - The Fragile Art Of Existence   ...I've been really critical of these vocals for years, I actually hated them. I think I've been unfair to the singer here; the awkwardness is more to do with the vocal writing than tone or technique. It strikes me that Chuck was so used to writing for screaming vocals that he hadn't gotten the best handle on this style. I wish he could have developed it further. Musically it's amazing.

Would be interested to hear people's takes on this album - BAN, Macabre, RO, TB, Requiem, any thoughts?

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15 minutes ago, RelentlessOblivion said:

I honestly have never listened to Control Denied. I am therefore not in a position to make comment. Re Dark Metal I've found it perfectly suited to my tastes. The blend of BM and Doom works nicely without that DSBM vibe which still seems to impact me in a deeply negative way.

For me, "Dark Metal" takes me to a pretty dark place - I'd put it on if I wanted a more pissed-off "Dance Of December Souls". I've listened to them back to back quite a few times. Great album, although it's overshadowed by the intensity of the vocals on "Dictius Te Necare".

You should check out Control Denied, seeing as how you're a big Death fan, love the late period, and dig a bunch of power metal. The vocals may take a little while to grow on you, but it's worth it.

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