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2 hours ago, MacabreEternal said:

Interested to hear your take on these two?  I rate both quite highly although I have now placed Druid Lord over Hooded Menace in the Death/Doom stakes for 2018 but still "Ossuarium..." is a great record I feel.

I need to spend more time with the Hooded Menace album but I have a positive impression. I don't love all of the parts, but I found myself drawn in by a lot of them and rewarded by where they ended up, so I could see it growing on me. I really enjoy the Craft album. I've been listening to it a lot. The angular riffs and moments of black n' roll groove and swagger remind me of the early 2000s, in a good way. Songwriting is great -- nicely layered, energetic, well thought out.

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Voices - Frightened   ...this is not "London". They've really turned the page on their "post-Akercocke" roots here. Definitely the same band, but the "extreme" elements are used for effect rather than as the base of the sound. I don't know what I'd call it -- semi-blackened post-post-metal? Slightly charred indie-goth? Extreme pop? Anyway it's odd, and dark, and I'm mostly enjoying it so far.

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5 hours ago, Balor said:

Was this a demo version of a later track?

"Phalènes et pestilence - salvatrice averse" - Peste Noire

"Pulverize the Human Race" - Goatpenis

Due to the high praise that this is getting here, I will have to check this out.

Yes, Demo/Rehearsal version of Key To The Gate, Det Som Engang Var

 

Now playing: Velvet Cacoon - Dextronaut

Amazing sound

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6 hours ago, Astarte said:

Yes, Demo/Rehearsal version of Key To The Gate, Det Som Engang Var

 

Now playing: Velvet Cacoon - Dextronaut

Amazing sound

I always liked the Burzum demo works.  They were so varied, but they always gave glimpses of what was to come.  Have you listened to the previously unreleased demo that was posted on youtube a few months ago?

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"I Loved You at Your Darkest" - Behemoth

I thought the album was good.  There was solid musicianship throughout, and the composition and structure of the songs were skillful.  The guitar solos were a bit too much for me, though.  While I dislike commenting on music based on ideology, I was nevertheless put off by Nergal's preaching.  He claims to want freedom, but then asks listeners to simply agree with his interpretations of out-of-context quotations from the Bible - not to say that he is wrong in what he thinks, but rather that he appears to discount the importance of knowledge and critical reasoning (both of which seem important in order for one to possess true freedom).  Moreover, the use of children in some of the first songs seems to go against this as well.  He asks those who are too young to make a truly free decision to come and help him to peddle his beliefs, which, in a way, makes him what he hates.

"Ataraxia/Taraxis" - Pelican

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14 hours ago, Balor said:

"I Loved You at Your Darkest" - Behemoth

I thought the album was good.  There was solid musicianship throughout, and the composition and structure of the songs were skillful.  The guitar solos were a bit too much for me, though.  While I dislike commenting on music based on ideology, I was nevertheless put off by Nergal's preaching.  He claims to want freedom, but then asks listeners to simply agree with his interpretations of out-of-context quotations from the Bible - not to say that he is wrong in what he thinks, but rather that he appears to discount the importance of knowledge and critical reasoning (both of which seem important in order for one to possess true freedom).  Moreover, the use of children in some of the first songs seems to go against this as well.  He asks those who are too young to make a truly free decision to come and help him to peddle his beliefs, which, in a way, makes him what he hates.

"Ataraxia/Taraxis" - Pelican

You make an interesting point here Balers.

It’s a weird album and not that enjoyable to listen to. On a deeper level is the question of what he’s talking about with that title. Is the person’s ‘darkest’ when they’re at their lowest emotionally, ideologically, spiritually? When they’re Christian or suicidal?

The same problem is found with Rotting Christ (although thank hell the music is better/brilliant). They put out an album that contains a heap of songs focused on the death deity/cults of many different cultures (‘Rituals’), then in the next blink of an eye they use a Voltaire quote to highlight the damage that Christianity can do. So, are they praising death and destruction or are they against it?

Why glorify the death cults of Aztec, Indian and Greek cultures in history as cool and worthy then complain that Christianity is apparently anti-life and a negative force? If they really think Christianity is a destructive entity then why not praise it!? If they think all religions that oppress and kill people are bad, then why glorify the ancient ones? 

When I heard the new Rotting Christ song with that Voltaire quote portraying Christianity in a negative light my brain screamed “double standards”! 

Same with Behemoth. What do they actually stand for? Christians to the lions and hurting the weak, or saving humanity from destructive ideologies and protecting people?

Both bands are: hooray ancient death cults/boo Christian hangmen. I don’t get it. 

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5 hours ago, Requiem said:

You make an interesting point here Balers.

It’s a weird album and not that enjoyable to listen to. On a deeper level is the question of what he’s talking about with that title. Is the person’s ‘darkest’ when they’re at their lowest emotionally, ideologically, spiritually? When they’re Christian or suicidal?

The same problem is found with Rotting Christ (although thank hell the music is better/brilliant). They put out an album that contains a heap of songs focused on the death deity/cults of many different cultures (‘Rituals’), then in the next blink of an eye they use a Voltaire quote to highlight the damage that Christianity can do. So, are they praising death and destruction or are they against it?

Why glorify the death cults of Aztec, Indian and Greek cultures in history as cool and worthy then complain that Christianity is apparently anti-life and a negative force? If they really think Christianity is a destructive entity then why not praise it!? If they think all religions that oppress and kill people are bad, then why glorify the ancient ones? 

When I heard the new Rotting Christ song with that Voltaire quote portraying Christianity in a negative light my brain screamed “double standards”! 

Same with Behemoth. What do they actually stand for? Christians to the lions and hurting the weak, or saving humanity from destructive ideologies and protecting people?

Both bands are: hooray ancient death cults/boo Christian hangmen. I don’t get it. 

I think that many fail to recognize how extreme music is double-sided.  On one hand, it can cast down convention and demolish societal expectations - which make one radically free.  Many fail, however, when they reach this point.  They can replace the old ways with new ones, and can rebuild their world around themselves.   Nonetheless, they often become trapped in an aesthetic of extremity that they have built up around themselves, and consequently do not see farther than their own self-image.  To a great extent extreme music is freedom, but freedom requires forethought.

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1 hour ago, FatherAlabaster said:

Craft - White Noise And Black Metal

Carpe Noctem - Vitrun

Corpsessed - Impetus Of Death

That Carpe Noctem is an interesting listen.  Not 100% onboard with it yet as requires my full attention but hoping to get some quality time with it at the weekend.

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2 hours ago, MacabreEternal said:

That Carpe Noctem is an interesting listen.  Not 100% onboard with it yet as requires my full attention but hoping to get some quality time with it at the weekend.

I know what you mean, I have a similar feeling - does seem to grow on me with repeat listens, though.

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Evoken - Antithesis Of Light

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11 hours ago, RelentlessOblivion said:

Metallica - s/t

Just on a whim I thought I'd throw this on. My reward? the realisation that (imo) with a few tweaks The Unforgiven could make for a cool doom metal cover.

That's a pretty good idea.  I always like when people do covers of a song, but then change the style in which it is played.

"Demonic Filth Ceremony" - Chaos Cascade and some random noisegrind/grindcore.

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4 hours ago, FatherAlabaster said:

Warmed up to this any more?

A little yes, comes across more “blackened” then I remember.  Less immediate stuff that I don’t dismiss outright to begin with usually creeps back into rotation soon enough, played it twice today in total and definitely warming to it.

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