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9 hours ago, JonoBlade said:

Although, in my (albeit weak) defence I've always assumed it's because I liked the contrast from time to time. 

It's a good defence. I have come to enjoy electronic music in its own right and I listen to all sorts of music as a contrast to metal.

I am partial to a bit of communist libtard ranting so I suppose I should give the Chat Pile another listen, but I didn't make it through the first track.

NP - AKKU Quartet - Aeon. By way of contrast.

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11 hours ago, JonoBlade said:

....Reappearing on Monday morning, right on schedule.

Lawnmower Deth was one of those comedy bands that was in pretty high rotation for me and my delinquent buddies in 1990 or whenever it was. They had a video for "Kids in America" that was fun. 

Regarding Chat Pile, your reaction is precisely the same as mine was. First few minutes was "narp, this is not for me" but inexplicably it was still playing 20 minutes later. And here I am this morning, listening again. 

It is not a million miles away from Korn. Except with communist libtard ranting in place of child abuse. It scratches a bit of a RATM itch. I don't know. Logic doesn't enter into it.

Much like when I realised that my favourite track from that MWWB album was the electronic track (▶︎ Let's Send These Bastards Whence They Came | MWWB | Mammoth Weed Wizard Bastard (bandcamp.com)). An album with fantastic female vocals and I like the instrumental track most. What the fuck is wrong with me? I've suspected for quite a while that I might like electronic music and I've been living a lie listening to metal all these years.

Although, in my (albeit weak) defence I've always assumed it's because I liked the contrast from time to time. 

I can't really win an argument on "no bass, no metal" because ...And Justice for All is still a metal record even if it would have been more awesome with bass. It is unfathomable that anyone would release a metal album without bass-y goodness in pole position. Like, you could do an album with all midi instruments, blast beats and guitars etc, that would technically be metal...but it would suck so hard.

Tried out your Welch buddies (whom I've taken the liberty of re-christening as Weapons of Mammoth Weed Destruction  or WMWD) last week but I couldn't get all the way through it. I'm not normally a big doom guy but I do have some doom metal that I'm really quite fond of, so I like to keep an eye out for stuff people like you recommend from time to time  just in case. Weed Wizards didn't make the grade. The album was way too clean sounding, not fuzzed-out enough for me. Instrument sounds are a big thing for me and their muffled guitar tone just annoyed the shit out of me. It actually just made me want to listen to Windhand, which is my go-to for FFD. They have a much dirtier tone, bigger, chunkier, heavier riffs, and they keep Dorthia's vocals buried in the mix which to me sounds like a really cool effect. The single biggest problem I had with WMWD is their vocalist has a childlike pre-pubescent quality to her much too high-pitched voice that really put me off, so that right there is a no-go even if they could somehow go back and fix the guitar tone. I've found that chicks with that little girl voice are almost always to be avoided. But there's nothing wrong with liking electronic music Jon-boy. Doesn't have to be either/or, certainly one could say I like metal, and I like electronic music as well. 

I've never heard a Korn or a RATM album. I guess it's a generation thing, fortunately I missed a lot of that shit they were marketing to youths in the 90's as I was already in my 30's with a kid of my own during that time when you mid-70's born Gen-X'ers were in high school.

Before I forget, I just wanted to ask about Wales. I know where it is and all, but what exactly is it politically? Is it an entirely separate country that's just stuck under British rule like Scotland, or is it just considered a "region" of Britain or like what's the deal? There's no regulated border crossing involved or customs or anything, right? I know it's not just another "shire" like Yorkshire, Nottinghamshire or Lancashire, but they don't spend any time on this stuff here in our 'Murican schools. To most Yanks sadly the British Isles is all just "England" and I think most Americans probably couldn't point out Wales or Scotland or even Ireland on a map for $50 bucks. Do the Welch really all speak that weird language of theirs? I do understand that they speak English primarily, but I mean can they mostly all speak, write and understand Welch if they had to? (I know you don't live in Wales, but you're a lot closer than I am) I only ask because my sister tells me we have ancestors from Wales among other places in the UK. The only Welchmen I could even name for you are Englebert Humperdink, and that guy who knocked-up my wife's Kiwi cousin while she was on holiday over in Wales back in 2017 I assume after a night of pub drinking.

As far as the bass in metal argument goes, my position is simply that as long as the lower frequencies get covered it doesn't really matter what instrument is covering them. My overall favorite metal band Inquisition as well as several other extreme metal bands are two-piece outfits who play live with just guitar and drums and they make it work and find a way to get that low end represented intheir sound without a bass player. And also Darkthrone of course, who I'm not sure but I think maybe they have used bass in the studio in the past. But they don't play live because I gues they're shy and Fenriz says as far as he's concerned live is bullshit, only studio output counts. So while I do really like bass, (when it comes to headphones you could almost even call me a basshead) I wouldn't use the lack of a dedicated bass player as a dealbreaker. And not that I really care anymore but since you brought it up I'll just add I think it's a wild exaggeration to say that AJFA had no bass. 5 seconds of EQ knob fiddling and it sounds fine & dandy if you're a fan of that album which imo had much bigger flaws than the diminished bass.

"Logic doesn't enter into it." Yes, so glad to see someone ese type this. It really doesn't. I have no idea which out of character things I might end up liking. Some shit just grabs you and makes you want to listen to it even if it goes against your normal selection criteria and you can't explain what it is about it that appeals to you.

1 hour ago, Thatguy said:

It's a good defence. I have come to enjoy electronic music in its own right and I listen to all sorts of music as a contrast to metal.

I am partial to a bit of communist libtard ranting so I suppose I should give the Chat Pile another listen, but I didn't make it through the first track.

Yes I'm somewhat partial to it, or at least in agreement with a lot of it myself, I'd just prefer to keep the "libtard ranting" separate from my music. There's a time and place for political ranting. You can make the lyrics as left-wing as you want, but don't stop the music and do the spoken word thing, that's a deal-breaker.

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1 hour ago, Thatguy said:

It's a good defence. I have come to enjoy electronic music in its own right and I listen to all sorts of music as a contrast to metal.

 

Rave Party Doc kicking it with the millennials!

 

Battlegrave - Cavernous Depths.

Should this have made my list for 22? Probably not, but it's not too bad.

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38 minutes ago, AlSymerz said:

Battlegrave - Cavernous Depths.

Should this have made my list for '22? Probably not, but it's not too bad.

Battlegrave – Cavernous Depths, Melbourne Victoria, AUS.

Won't bother to post the video, I'll just say the plastic clickety rapid-fire drums were the deal-breaker for me here. Sounds machine made or enhanced (not saying it is, only that it sounds like it is) and that turns me right off. Vocals weren't doing it for me either.

I can't help but notice Orca that you post a disproportionately high number of Aussie bands. Is this because it's easier to get your hands on the physical albums down there, or just typical garden-variety patriotism?

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11 minutes ago, GoatmasterGeneral said:

Won't bother to post the video, I'll just say the plastic clickety rapid-fire drums were the deal-breaker for me here. Sounds machine made or enhanced (not saying it is, only that it sounds like it is) and that turns me right off. 

Thought you always said you didn't care if the drums were programmed or not?

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11 hours ago, JonoBlade said:

....Reappearing on Monday morning, right on schedule.

Lawnmower Deth was one of those comedy bands that was in pretty high rotation for me and my delinquent buddies in 1990 or whenever it was. They had a video for "Kids in America" that was fun. 

Regarding Chat Pile, your reaction is precisely the same as mine was. First few minutes was "narp, this is not for me" but inexplicably it was still playing 20 minutes later. And here I am this morning, listening again. 

It is not a million miles away from Korn. Except with communist libtard ranting in place of child abuse. It scratches a bit of a RATM itch. I don't know. Logic doesn't enter into it.

 

I read somewhere that one of the members confessed to listening to Korn but mostly their influences were stuff like Godflesh and noise bands including Sonic Youth which makes sense I guess. I've never heard a Korn album. I'll defend RATM though any day. Tom Morello is insane. 

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17 minutes ago, FatherAlabaster said:

Thought you always said you didn't care if the drums were programmed or not?

This is true. But I care if they sound plastic and clickety, whether or not they've been programmed. I've heard a lot of records over the years where the drums sound fine to me and I had no idea they were programmed until someone pointed it out to me. Look at Type O, whom I've been listening to quite a lot of lately. For many years I never had any idea their drums on the albums were programmed and they only used a real human drummer live in concert. And the drums on those albums sound completely fine to me.

I actually don't focus on the drums when listening to music. I focus on rythym guitars. The only situations in which I ever really notice the drums is if they're not there, or if they're egregiously clickety and plastic sounding, or when an album has achieved a particualrly heinous snare sound that I just can't unhear once I've noticed it. So I want the drums to be there and keep the time, as long as they don't sound in some way annoying. 

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44 minutes ago, markm said:

I read somewhere that one of the members confessed to listening to Korn but mostly their influences were stuff like Godflesh and noise bands including Sonic Youth which makes sense I guess. I've never heard a Korn album. I'll defend RATM though any day. Tom Morello is insane. 

No idea if he's insane or not, but Morello is certainly a highly skilled guitar player and he seems to be a real nice guy too. That does not make RATM's music any more palatable to me. Basically the same way I feel about Van Halen. Eddie's a great player, but after the first two or 3 albums their music went in a much too light-weight and mainstream direction for me. They were basically dead to me once I heard Jump for the first time. They're still better than RATM though.

 

24 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

I don't think he was Welsh (or even Welch). I think he came from Leicestershire. It's Tom Jones who is Welsh - or was. Is he still alive?

 

Welch/Welsh...to-MAY-toe/to-MAH-toe

I knew it was one of those two. I get them mixed up all the time. Both from the UK, same generation, same kind of music, same dark wavy hair, same BDE. Turns out they are both still alive, Jones (on our right) is 82 and Humperdink is 86.

When Tom Jones recorded an unreleased gospel 'Release Me' before rival  Engelbert... - Gold

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1 hour ago, GoatmasterGeneral said:

Battlegrave – Cavernous Depths, Melbourne Victoria, AUS.

Won't bother to post the video, I'll just say the plastic clickety rapid-fire drums were the deal-breaker for me here. Sounds machine made or enhanced (not saying it is, only that it sounds like it is) and that turns me right off. Vocals weren't doing it for me either.

I can't help but notice Orca that you post a disproportionately high number of Aussie bands. Is this because it's easier to get your hands on the physical albums down there, or just typical garden-variety patriotism?

Orca and I have different taste, but Oz has a disproportionate number of killer bands, speaking of which

 

NP: Sadistik Exekution - Fukk

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1 hour ago, markm said:

Is it always all about you?

Of course it is. Who else would it be about? 😁 Not sure who else's opinions you think I should be contributing here on the board if not my own. The consensus opinion maybe? (relax, that was just a little joke)

I mean that particular comment I made was about Tom Morello and his very successful former 90's mainstream nu-metal band RATM. But in a larger sense that was my personal take on great musicianship not being enough to save bad music all by itself, which popped into my head when I read your post. I wasn't even trying to be provocative or controversial, I thought that was one of my more reasonable takes.

You are as always free to disagree Marky Mark. Your opinions are as valid and valued as anyone else's.

 

NP: HULDER Live @ Boggs Social [Atlanta, GA 07/18/22

 

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