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3 hours ago, Arioch said:

Sadus - Swallowed in Black (1990)

I prefer this album to Illusions on first listen. I find the album better produced, the violence better controlled while remaining as intense. And I love DiGiorgio's bass sound!

By the way! Did you know that on his FaceBook page, Sadus has launched a countdown? In 8 days, an announcement will be made!

Is this the album they were supposed to record in 2020 and which will finally be released?

That's my favorite of theirs. Elements toned it down a little too much in my opinion. Would be nice to hear a new one from them, but I'm not sure it won't be a tour/show announcement.

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1 hour ago, JonoBlade said:

This stuff is all available on the Peaceville bandcamp page: Music | Peaceville (bandcamp.com)

Oddly, while I have heard Gothic I don't know it well (except I used to play the title song over and over from a copied cassette tape). Same with As the Flower Withers.

I jumped on board with doom in the summer 1992 and never looked back...like literally never checked out the earlier albums if no one I knew had them.

Nick's singing voice absolutely ruins their later stuff for me. I had pretty much everything they did through the late 90s and dug it for a while... essentially woke up one random day to the fully formed realization that I fucking hated his voice and couldn't listen to them anymore. Every time I check back in with them, it's still true.

Aaron on the other hand, I mostly love his clean voice, as cheesy as it can be. I buy it. I'm convinced. There are a few MDB albums that don't do anything for me but I have everything I like by them and always check out their new stuff. Even wassname Cavanagh has his moments... I did like most of it up to Judgement for a while, it was A Fine Day To Exit that lost me. Anymore I stop after Silent Enigma. But Nick, man, just no. He had amazing growls early on, that's all I can get into.

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10 minutes ago, FatherAlabaster said:

Nick's singing voice absolutely ruins their later stuff for me...... just no. He had amazing growls early on, that's all I can get into.

Oof. Poor old Nick. I like the Shades of God delivery the most. Quite distinctive and clear. By Draconian Times it was too polished and mainstream like James Hetfield around the same period. Not bad as such, just a bit generic.

NP: MDB - As the Flower Withers off bandcamp. Guess I'll have to buy it soon as it will prompt me. $10 for a 1992 album download is just a bit beyond my tolerance when I can probably find an old CD on eBay for £3. Methinks labels get a bit greedy with back catalog downloads. $6.27 and less would be an automatic buy but anymore gives pause for thought. 

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@Arioch not sure whether it's a tour or album, but I'd be ok with either. Sadus is a band I always wanted to see but never thought I would.

@FatherAlabaster Hindsight is a great chill album with high WAF (wife acceptance factor). Later Anathema is an acquired taste. Really have to separate the 2 eras in the same vein as Opeth. I don't even see them as the same band. Duncan Patterson's other project Antimatter was pretty decent too, but as always YMMV.

Parius - The Signal Heard Throughout Space - giving this one another go on the proper hifi. Not as good on the 5th pass through, but I do like it. I hate when a band is prog and they get the instant comparison to Rush. Nothing even close. Long songs + time signature changes do not equal Rush. And the album could use a good editor. Songs are way too long.

Vauruvã - Manso Queimor Dacordado - yeah, 'tis good.

HOME FRONT - Think of the Lie - 80's new wave. Catchy as hell.

King Gizzard & The Lizard Wizard - Murder the Universe

Mastodon - Blood Mountain

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Sadus - Elements of Anger (1998)

Ok! I listened to the first 4 Sadus albums today. Of the 4, I really only knew Elements of Anger. The other albums I had already listened to but didn't really dig into.

- Illusions (Chemical Exposure): it's wild! But you can already feel the technical side, even if it's not what stands out the most.
- Swallowed in Black: still as violent (maybe less so, though). I find the sound better and the compositions more memorable. And the omnipresent bass sound is a pleasure to hear.
- A Vision of Memory: the perfect link between Swallowed and Elements of Anger, I think. Still wild but less so and the compositions are more worked out, more complex.
- Elements of Anger: well, I know it by heart. I like all its tracks but I regret that it is less killer than the previous ones.

I miss Out for Blood that I didn't listen to. Maybe tomorrow.

In any case, this is a band I regret not having followed from album to album. I'll fix that!

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So far today:

 

Excruciate - Passage of Life, Sweden 1993, Surge assures me I've heard this one before and I liked it.

 

Oppressor - Solstice of Oppression, Chicago 1994, reco from my friend Cody, a bit too techy for my taste but by about the 4th track I was digging it.

 

Funebrarum - The Sleep of Morbid Dreams, 2009, really love this one

 

Obituary - Obituary 2017, someone told me there's a new Obit on the way so I'm revisiting their last one.

 

 

2 hours ago, navybsn said:

Hindsight is a great chill album with high WAF (wife acceptance factor). Later Anathema is an acquired taste. Really have to separate the 2 eras in the same vein as Opeth. I don't even see them as the same band. Duncan Patterson's other project Antimatter was pretty decent too, but as always YMMV.

OK Navy, give it to me straight. You know me, and I trust you. Where do I start with Anathema? Or should I even bother?

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48 minutes ago, GoatmasterGeneral said:

So far today:

 

Excruciate - Passage of Life, Sweden 1993, Surge assures me I've heard this one before and I liked it.

 

Oppressor - Solstice of Oppression, Chicago 1994, reco from my friend Cody, a bit too techy for my taste but by about the 4th track I was digging it.

 

Funebrarum - The Sleep of Morbid Dreams, 2009, really love this one

 

Obituary - Obituary 2017, someone told me there's a new Obit on the way so I'm revisiting their last one.

 

 

OK Navy, give it to me straight. You know me, and I trust you. Where do I start with Anathema? Or should I even bother?

Honestly, depends on what you want. They're not a band I'd really recommend to you knowing your tastes, but...

If you want the doom band - the Pentecost III EP, Silent Enigma, and Eternity are all decent choices. Crestfallen EP is ok too.

If you want the alternative band - I like A Fine Day to Exit. Much closer to Radiohead than metal. A Natural Disaster is decent too.

If you want a chill acoustic album to drink a nice bourbon to while reading a book - Hindsight.

That said, I predict you'll not make it through a single full album.

 

Edit* - now that I think of it - Try the live album I posted the other day. Might give you a taste to see if you want to dig further. It's all the old doom stuff pre-96.

Anathema - A Vision of Dying Embrace

 

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Return To Forever - Where Have I Known You Before 

30 minutes ago, navybsn said:

Honestly, depends on what you want. They're not a band I'd really recommend to you knowing your tastes, but...

If you want the doom band - the Pentecost III EP, Silent Enigma, and Eternity are all decent choices. Crestfallen EP is ok too.

If you want the alternative band - I like A Fine Day to Exit. Much closer to Radiohead than metal. A Natural Disaster is decent too.

If you want a chill acoustic album to drink a nice bourbon to while reading a book - Hindsight.

That said, I predict you'll not make it through a single full album.

 

Edit* - now that I think of it - Try the live album I posted the other day. Might give you a taste to see if you want to dig further. It's all the old doom stuff pre-96.

Anathema - A Vision of Dying Embrace

 

One thing that always struck me about Silent Enigma was how much some parts reminded me of the more, I dunno, "gothic metal" parts of Into The Pandemonium. The spoken vocals especially but also the music to some degree... did you ever feel like you heard that connection?

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28 minutes ago, FatherAlabaster said:

Return To Forever - Where Have I Known You Before 

One thing that always struck me about Silent Enigma was how much some parts reminded me of the more, I dunno, "gothic metal" parts of Into The Pandemonium. The spoken vocals especially but also the music to some degree... did you ever feel like you heard that connection?

No, but now that you mention it, I have to go back and check it out. Been a few minutes since I've listened to that album.

Re: RTF - holy fuck they were so good. Stanley Clark, Al di Meola, Chick Corea, Lenny White... Pretty tough to get a better group together than that outside of the Bitches' Brew-era Miles band or maybe Mahvishnu.

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3 minutes ago, navybsn said:

Re: RTF - holy fuck they were so good. Stanley Clark, Al di Meola, Chick Corea, Lenny White... Pretty tough to get a better group together than that outside of the Bitches' Brew-era Miles band or maybe Mahvishnu.

The other band guys are huge Al Di Meola fans and I joke with them about what amazing musicians they were, to make Al sound like the weak link on that album. He was so young then, too, like around 20? They fucking smoked. So amazing. There was a great live clip on Youtube of them doing Hymn Of The Seventh Galaxy stuff with Bill Connors, the guitarist they had right before Al, and the energy just leapt off the screen. Looks like it got taken down though. I'll see if I can hunt it down again.

 

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21 minutes ago, FatherAlabaster said:

The other band guys are huge Al Di Meola fans and I joke with them about what amazing musicians they were, to make Al sound like the weak link on that album. He was so young then, too, like around 20? They fucking smoked. So amazing. There was a great live clip on Youtube of them doing Hymn Of The Seventh Galaxy stuff with Bill Connors, the guitarist they had right before Al, and the energy just leapt off the screen. Looks like it got taken down though. I'll see if I can hunt it down again.

 

ADM was and still is freaking amazing.

This was always my favorite with him involved, but it's cheating because it's got McLaughlin and de Lucia

The Guitar Trio - Friday Night in San Francisco

 

FA - ever heard this? McLaughlin at just his most badass and Sonny Sharrock isn't too shabby either. Can't remember which one plays on which track, but they're both great.

 

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4 hours ago, navybsn said:

ADM was and still is freaking amazing.

This was always my favorite with him involved, but it's cheating because it's got McLaughlin and de Lucia

The Guitar Trio - Friday Night in San Francisco

 

FA - ever heard this? McLaughlin at just his most badass and Sonny Sharrock isn't too shabby either. Can't remember which one plays on which track, but they're both great.

 

This Miles Davis album is amazing. Thanks dude. I listened to a little bit of Sonny Sharrock's stuff recently and thought I remembered this cover art, but nope, hadn't heard it before. Such atmosphere. Nasty drumming too.

Al Di Meola favorites are Where Have I Known You Before, Elegant Gypsy, and Casino, but there's a whole bunch of later stuff I haven't heard. I only have some RTF and the 70s solo albums.

NP - Mahavishnu Orchestra - Visions Of The Emerald Beyond 

Tigran Hamasyan - An Ancient Observer

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1 hour ago, FatherAlabaster said:

This Miles Davis album is amazing. Thanks dude. I listened to a little bit of Sonny Sharrock's stuff recently and thought I remembered this cover art, but nope, hadn't heard it before. Such atmosphere. Nasty drumming too.

Al Di Meola favorites are Where Have I Known You Before, Elegant Gypsy, and Casino, but there's a whole bunch of later stuff I haven't heard. I only have some RTF and the 70s solo albums.

NP - Mahavishnu Orchestra - Visions Of The Emerald Beyond 

Tigran Hamasyan - An Ancient Observer

This was Miles' "rock band" and the album that basically created fusion as a genre. No matter how many times I've heard it, still blows my mind every time.

ADM's solo stuff is great. I'd say my choices are the same as yours if pressed, but there's something special about that Friday Night album. Try to find some video of it if you can. Most of those lightning guitar runs are actually all 3 guys playing at different parts, seamlessly handing off to the next one. I listened to it for years thinking they each took turns on different runs, and then I saw the video 🤯

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1 hour ago, navybsn said:

ADM's solo stuff is great. I'd say my choices are the same as yours if pressed, but there's something special about that Friday Night album. Try to find some video of it if you can. Most of those lightning guitar runs are actually all 3 guys playing at different parts, seamlessly handing off to the next one. I listened to it for years thinking they each took turns on different runs, and then I saw the video 

I have actually seen some of it - Youtube clips with my guitar friends. Probably more focused on the impressive playing than the music though. I should just put it on headphones.

 

1 hour ago, navybsn said:

This was Miles' "rock band" and the album that basically created fusion as a genre. No matter how many times I've heard it, still blows my mind every time.

 🤯

Looked up the recording lineup for that Miles Davis album... of course the drumming is nasty, it's Billy Cobham. Jeez. That guy is maybe the most propulsive drummer I've ever heard. 

Sonny Sharrock plays on a section of the second tune that was edited in from a different session which also included Chick Corea. And apparently the main recording started as an impromptu in-studio jam. I think I need some air.

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