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9 hours ago, GoatmasterGeneral said:

Love ya Doc. Hope that response you provoked was as entertaining as you'd hoped. Lord knows I always strive to be entertaining. 

Yep. Good enough.

And, of course, we all love what we love. I enjoy a good few of the albums you put up, and acquire the odd one. I honestly think this particular album is not a good example of anything and it bathes in unappealing murk. But that's just me.

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48 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

Yep. Good enough.

And, of course, we all love what we love. I enjoy a good few of the albums you put up, and acquire the odd one. I honestly think this particular album is not a good example of anything and it bathes in unappealing murk. But that's just me.

That's cool Doc you old geezer. But I do have a murky side to me so I do like the odd bit off fuzzy black metal now and then, even though that's certainly not my main focus in the type of black metal I'm looking for. I generally go for the more melodic and riffy but caustic stuff. And of course I love the evil primitive Archgoat-esque stuff. The fuzzy lo-fi stuff and atmo-black are definitely secondary concerns. Also I was only 4 minutes into my maiden voyage when I made that comment about knowing it was gonna be killer. It might not have been the very best example, but by the end I still liked it well enough although had I been familiar with the album beforehand, it still wouldn't have cracked my 2003 list.

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The Mist From The Mountains - Monumental - The Temple of Twilight (2022)

This mornings random listen to previously unheard and not searched for music takes me to Finland for some melodic black metal.  A brief scan of the one review on Encyclopaedia Metallum tells me that this is "..a greasy tray of chips to the sickly sweet, iced cakes of Dimmu Borgir."

I like iced cakes, I don't like Dimmu Borgir. That review is false in its reference points.  I would call this a meat and vegetables main course only instead of gravy there's jus all over everything and the broccoli is that tenderstem variety that goes limp too quickly if you over cook it.

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Concilivm - A Monument in Darkness. Maybe the best dM of the year for me. Chile.

Conquest Icon - Empire of the Worm. Insanely good and brutal riff fest. I love this style of Polish DM.

Impalement - The Impalement. Amazing black death from a solo Swiss metal-maven.

Inferno - Omniabsence Filled by His Greatness. Gnostic nightcap.

 

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6 hours ago, Thatguy said:

CASTAVET Obsian. This one brought home the bacon.

FEN - Dustwalker. 'Walking the Crowpath' will be played at my funeral. No time soon I hope.

NP - STEVE ROACH - What Remains. Ambient chill that is perfect for a grey wet afternoon.

You post this one a lot Doc. You must really like it. I've sampled it before, but it hasn't stuck with me so I'll draw a blank the next time you post it. Castevet as they used to be known are one of those alleged "black metal" bands from NYC that's not in any way playing anything remotely resembling black metal. Which immediately conjures up thoughts of Krallice and Liturgy. Not good. And I'm already annoyed with these boys because I want the album title to be Obsidian, but we're missing a di so it's just Obsian. Dumb. They're not even listed on the M-A so I had to Google them. Wikipedia says they formed in 2006 then changed names to CSTVT in 2010 but the pronunciation stayed the same. Wikipedia lists Castevet as "black metal" but CSTVT as an "emo band" which is 'fuckin' retawded' as we New Yorkers like to say. Wikipedia sucks. But I'm going to try to set all that shit aside for the moment and be at least somewhat objective.

The music here is not altogether terrible, although it's a bit jarring at 7am. Not because it's so extreme or brutal or anything, but just because it's very angular, all perpendicular straight lines there are no curves, there's no groove. What do all these 'Doc bands' have against groove I wonder? But when I listen a few more minutes I start thinking maybe there is some groove here. And then as soon as I start to feel like I might be able to synch my brain up with the groove, it's gone in a wash of ambient noise between tracks. Followed by more jarring non-groove. Bastards. I think maybe they're denying themselves the groove because they feel they don't deserve it because the mighty M-A wouldn't accept them. Like they could easily get into a groove and make me nod my head in time with them if they chose to do so, but once they realize they're doing that then they have to change it up because that'd be too easy and pedestrian and predictable and boring for them.

Not gonna liken this to any exotic vegetables (honestly before this morning I had no idea broccoli even came in different stem strengths) because I happen to really like veggies and there's just not that much flavor here. Gonna say this is like mashed spuds with no gravy or butter, just the milk they mashed 'em with. Maybe a pinch of salt but it was all in the middle, none to be tasted in the beginning or the end. Now toward the end of the album they hit me with some very understated, almost half-spoken, kinda monotone clean vocals that make me totally reevaluate everything I'd been thinking. No this is not good. Why would they do this? No wonder M-A wouldn't take them. With the end coming up so soon this will leave me with an overall bad impression of an album that wasn't really all that bad overall. But now it is and when it ends it will remain so in my mind, frozen in time forever. And that's on them, I had nothing to do with that. Their own damn fault. 

 

Castevet - Obsian, NYC 2013

 

Not even gonna touch Fen or the ambient one, I think my thoughts on those two would pretty much be exactly what you think they'd be.

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Since I bought a new CD Transport my listening has reverted back 90% to hard copy. Absolutely loving it too.

Tonight’s (Decision) has seen the following rotate through:

Paradise Lost - Icon

Goatwhore - Constricting Rage of the Merciless

Katatonia - Tonight’s Decision

Novembre - Classica

Borknagar - True North 

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18 minutes ago, GoatmasterGeneral said:

They're not even listed on the M-A so I had to Google them. Wikipedia says they formed in 2006 then changed names to CSTVT in 2010 but the pronunciation stayed the same. Wikipedia lists Castevet as "black metal" but CSTVT as an "emo band" which is 'fuckin' retawded' as we New Yorkers like to say. Wikipedia sucks. 

 

19 minutes ago, GoatmasterGeneral said:

No wonder M-A wouldn't take them.

Say what? 

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Castevet/3540282873 

Other band is different people. 

 

They are maybe a little Krallice-y, but only a little. Not a bad thing at all in my book - a different book from your book, to be sure. I've seen both bands live a few times and they were excellent. No pretense, no condescending bs, just good performances.

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1 hour ago, True Belief said:

Since I bought a new CD Transport my listening has reverted back 90% to hard copy. Absolutely loving it too.

Tonight’s (Decision) has seen the following rotate through:

Paradise Lost - Icon

Goatwhore - Constricting Rage of the Merciless

Katatonia - Tonight’s Decision

Novembre - Classica

Borknagar - True North 

Which transport did you get? I've been thinking of getting a new one. I really like the convenience of my server, but there are a few CD's I have that I randomly want to play but not rip, and the server has the occasional annoying hiccup that while not catastrophic are still aggravating. Also annoying is that some files load as duplicates which means that the albums have to be manually added to a playlist to avoid that. Plus, I just really like audio gear....

Borknagar has the ignoble distinction of being the quickest set I have ever walked out on. I've probably walked out on 100+ sets over the years. I will usually stick around for 1-2 songs even for shitty bands I'm not really interested in, but I only lasted 15 seconds into their 2019 set at MDF. Fucking wretched. As soon as IC Rex started singing, I was out.

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3 hours ago, RelentlessOblivion said:

Agalloch - The Mantle

44 albums to narrow down for 2002…R’Lyeh help me

I'm not R'Lyeh but if he's busy and you want my advice axe the Agalloch, they're lame. Now you have 43. But you probably don't want my advice. You probably worship Agalloch and the Mantle will be your #1.

 

Don't think I've ever heard Borknagar. 

 

 

4 hours ago, FatherAlabaster said:

 

Say what? 

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Castevet/3540282873 

Other band is different people. 

 

They are maybe a little Krallice-y, but only a little. Not a bad thing at all in my book - a different book from your book, to be sure. I've seen both bands live a few times and they were excellent. No pretense, no condescending bs, just good performances.

I was searching 'Castavet' with it spelled wrong, it's spelled 'Castevet' that's why they weren't coming up. 

Was wondering since you were probably still in Brooklyn back then if you might've known those guys or anything.

Didn't find them too Krallicey, I listened to it twice while I typed that post (which was largely tongue in cheek for Doc's benefit) and I'd never be able to make it through a Krallice album even once. Not even on a dare. I thought the album was alright, but I wish I could have been in the studio with them, because with a few little changes like dropping those clean vox at the end and a little more groove it could have been a damn good album. We would have called it Obsidian.

Why does art metal have to be so angular and dissonant? What do they gain from that? Makes it so inaccessible. I wish I could be a fly on the wall and watch one of these mathcore bands write a song and try to understand how it all comes together. It's not a genre I can say I enjoy listening to, but I admit I'm fascinated by the non musicality of it and the structure of the songs and how it all works and comes together into 'music' for them. 

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