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Amorphis the bee awesome track this new album is gonna kick ass 

 

Woah, thanks for posting this - I hadn't realised there was a new Amorphis track. 

When it started I thought, hey what's going on with this synth work, but the whole track just works really well. It's uber-produced which I'm a bit ambivalent about, although 'Under the Red Cloud' was beautifully produced too and that's a great album. 

I'm really excited to hear that Olli-Pekka Laine is back in the band on bass! He was brilliant on 'Tales from the Thousand Lakes' and 'Elegy'. Actually, it's a real coincidence that I've found this out today, because just two days ago I was listening to Barren Earth in my car, Laine and Kasper Martenson's new(ish) band. And here he is turning up in Amorphis again. 

 

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Woah, thanks for posting this - I hadn't realised there was a new Amorphis track. 

When it started I thought, hey what's going on with this synth work, but the whole track just works really well. It's uber-produced which I'm a bit ambivalent about, although 'Under the Red Cloud' was beautifully produced too and that's a great album. 

I'm really excited to hear that Olli-Pekka Laine is back in the band on bass! He was brilliant on 'Tales from the Thousand Lakes' and 'Elegy'. Actually, it's a real coincidence that I've found this out today, because just two days ago I was listening to Barren Earth in my car, Laine and Kasper Martenson's new(ish) band. And here he is turning up in Amorphis again. 

 

Your welcome buddy  it’s awesome  I just preordered the album immediately 

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Woah, thanks for posting this - I hadn't realised there was a new Amorphis track. 
When it started I thought, hey what's going on with this synth work, but the whole track just works really well. It's uber-produced which I'm a bit ambivalent about, although 'Under the Red Cloud' was beautifully produced too and that's a great album. 
I'm really excited to hear that Olli-Pekka Laine is back in the band on bass! He was brilliant on 'Tales from the Thousand Lakes' and 'Elegy'. Actually, it's a real coincidence that I've found this out today, because just two days ago I was listening to Barren Earth in my car, Laine and Kasper Martenson's new(ish) band. And here he is turning up in Amorphis again. 
 
The newest one I have is Skyforger, but I believe I have everything up to that point. How are the ones after it?

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The newest one I have is Skyforger, but I believe I have everything up to that point. How are the ones after it?

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The next couple are all similar to (although not to the same level as) Skyforger. Their latest ‘Under the Red Cloud’ is brilliant. Possibly my fav of theirs.
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The next couple are all similar to (although not to the same level as) Skyforger. Their latest ‘Under the Red Cloud’ is brilliant. Possibly my fav of theirs.
Good to know. I remember seeing that they did some re-recordings, and heard the albums after were more of the same, but underwhelming. I hadn't heard about Under the Red Cloud, I'll put it on my radar.

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The newest one I have is Skyforger, but I believe I have everything up to that point. How are the ones after it?

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The answer to this is that they released one of the most boring albums of their career immediately after 'Skyforger', called 'The Beginning of Times' (avoid), then corrected their trajectory with one of my favourite albums of theirs in 'Circle' (purchase immediately) and then 'Under the Red Sun' (brilliant but very 'produced'). Allow me to explain. 

'The Beginning of Times' is the end of the Eclipse/The Beginning of Times songwriting explosion spawned by Tomi Joutsen's inclusion in the band, and they really ran out of ideas by this point. While 'Skyforger' has a bit of filler, 'TBoT' is all filler no killer. They were writing in exactly the same style as the previous three albums but had really run out of riffs. They were also putting albums out really quickly by modern standards, with four albums released in 6 years! You can almost hear the boredom in the studio this time.

I think the band sensed the problem, because by comparison,'Circle' has hooks, meaningful songs, a slightly rougher, more organic, production and faster songs. It's a killer album and sounds fresh and energised, at least to my ears. Even the artwork took a different approach compared to the previous four albums. Also, every song is a winner, which is to the band's credit as even great albums like 'Silent Waters' have a wee touch of filler. 

After 'Circle' they went to Fascination Street studios where man-of-the-hour Jens Bogren worked his production magic with 'Under the Red Cloud'. This has a very polished production and some absolutely killer songs if you like catchiness. Tracks like 'Death of a King', 'Bad Blood' and 'Tree of Life' are melodic milestones. I can well imagine that the modern production might not appeal to some metal fans, that's why I think 'Circle' may be more interesting to some people. It's just so authentic. 

So in summary, the three albums released after 'Skyforger' include an immediate dud then two great ones. I can't wait to hear 'Queen of Time'! 

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The answer to this is that they released one of the most boring albums of their career immediately after 'Skyforger', called 'The Beginning of Times' (avoid), then corrected their trajectory with one of my favourite albums of theirs in 'Circle' (purchase immediately) and then 'Under the Red Sun' (brilliant but very 'produced'). Allow me to explain. 
'The Beginning of Times' is the end of the Eclipse/The Beginning of Times songwriting explosion spawned by Tomi Joutsen's inclusion in the band, and they really ran out of ideas by this point. While 'Skyforger' has a bit of filler, 'TBoT' is all filler no killer. They were writing in exactly the same style as the previous three albums but had really run out of riffs. They were also putting albums out really quickly by modern standards, with four albums released in 6 years! You can almost hear the boredom in the studio this time.
I think the band sensed the problem, because by comparison,'Circle' has hooks, meaningful songs, a slightly rougher, more organic, production and faster songs. It's a killer album and sounds fresh and energised, at least to my ears. Even the artwork took a different approach compared to the previous four albums. Also, every song is a winner, which is to the band's credit as even great albums like 'Silent Waters' have a wee touch of filler. 
After 'Circle' they went to Fascination Street studios where man-of-the-hour Jens Bogren worked his production magic with 'Under the Red Cloud'. This has a very polished production and some absolutely killer songs if you like catchiness. Tracks like 'Death of a King', 'Bad Blood' and 'Tree of Life' are melodic milestones. I can well imagine that the modern production might not appeal to some metal fans, that's why I think 'Circle' may be more interesting to some people. It's just so authentic. 
So in summary, the three albums released after 'Skyforger' include an immediate dud then two great ones. I can't wait to hear 'Queen of Time'! 
I appreciate the analysis. Amorphis is a favorite of mine, they even did the rock sound in the late 90's/early 00's better than their peers. Elegy is a masterpiece, The Karelian Isthmus and Tales From the Thousand Lakes are hot on its heels, and their first 3 Joutsen albums (especially Silent Waters) were fantastic. I should do a better job of keeping up with them, but I suck at keeping up with new releases in general

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I appreciate the analysis. Amorphis is a favorite of mine, they even did the rock sound in the late 90's/early 00's better than their peers. Elegy is a masterpiece, The Karelian Isthmus and Tales From the Thousand Lakes are hot on its heels, and their first 3 Joutsen albums (especially Silent Waters) were fantastic. I should do a better job of keeping up with them, but I suck at keeping up with new releases in general

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While our tastes don't always make good bedfellows (although lately they seem to), your assessment here is 100% in line with mine (although you probably like 'TKI' more than me).

I think with this in mind you would probably really like 'Circle' too. I've built it up now so it'll probably be shit, but I'm really only speaking from my eclectic tastes haha.

 

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While our tastes don't always make good bedfellows (although lately they seem to), your assessment here is 100% in line with mine (although you probably like 'TKI' more than me).
I think with this in mind you would probably really like 'Circle' too. I've built it up now so it'll probably be shit, but I'm really only speaking from my eclectic tastes haha.
 
I think we have a good feel for where we're both at after all of this discussion. That's what makes forums cool, getting to know people and what they're into and finding the cross-sections. It makes it easier to recommend things to each other and discuss more effectively and in depth. I think we find out what we like more by defending and arguing about it than we do by extolling it to a fellow appreciator sometimes. I'll give the two newest a shot whenever I see them available, thanks for the heads up.

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