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It's definitely not their best work, but was worth putting out.
I disagree. Continuing to put out mediocre self-serving albums that serve only to draw attention from other artists more deserving of accolades, just because they're the same guys that were relevant a generation ago, doesn't go towards strengthening your legacy. Maybe it's just me, but I would rather have a band break up after releasing three great albums than release three masterpieces and then ten pointless and tedious cash grabs.

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2 hours ago, BlutAusNerd said:

I disagree. Continuing to put out mediocre self-serving albums that serve only to draw attention from other artists more deserving of accolades, just because they're the same guys that were relevant a generation ago, doesn't go towards strengthening your legacy. Maybe it's just me, but I would rather have a band break up after releasing three great albums than release three masterpieces and then ten pointless and tedious cash grabs.

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However, I would deem any release as being worthy of existence if it brought happiness to at least one person.  Besides, if they enjoyed making their more recent albums, then what does it matter if they are generally disliked?

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However, I would deem any release as being worthy of existence if it brought happiness to at least one person.  Besides, if they enjoyed making their more recent albums, then what does it matter if they are generally disliked?
I guess that's true, but does it really seem like their heart had been in it for the past 25 years? Is it really all that enjoyable to phone in another album to keep the paychecks rolling? I guess my thought is that if you're out of shit to say, it's time to stop talking. Not that bands can't find their way back to making meaningful music after lapsing into self-parody, I just find it a lot more respectable when they can self-evaluate and say "guys, this just doesn't cut it. We need to scrap it and try again, or wrap it up if we can't release something that is up to the standard that we've set for ourselves."

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12 hours ago, BlutAusNerd said:

I just find it a lot more respectable when they can self-evaluate and say "guys, this just doesn't cut it. We need to scrap it and try again, or wrap it up if we can't release something that is up to the standard that we've set for ourselves."

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I like that philosophy.  I nevertheless find it sad to see something that has been around for so long to come to an end.  However, that is probably just me becoming overly attached to things.

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I'll always remember the only time I watched Slayer live back at 2005. They played the main stage @ Exit festival in Serbia. Anyway, it was a rainy day, and black clouds were all around. The whole pit was in mud and water and then Slayer hit the stage. People lost their mind, I remember that one small girl/women went into pit with a couple of big guys and just DISAPPEARED in a violent fight in mud and rain. After that, a couple of guys stole the ambulance van and drove in the center of the crowd. After that, they got on top of the van and cheered the band. Tom looked at them and said: Serbs! Lud! ("Lud" means crazy). One more thing was when it started raining like hell when they started playing "Raining Blood", what a trip. It was cold and rainy but there it is, it was a crazy experience for a fifteen year old. :D   

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 I have never had the chance to see Slayer live and to be honest...they are not amongst my top favorite bands, but it is still weird to see them go...because they seem to have been with us since forever...

I remember early crossover punks wearing Slayer t-shirts back in the early 1990's and just the other day I saw a young lad wearing a Slayer knitted hat.

Time for some new blood to enter the metal stage.

 

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 I have never had the chance to see Slayer live and to be honest...they are not amongst my top favorite bands, but it is still weird to see them go...because they seem to have been with us since forever...
I remember early crossover punks wearing Slayer t-shirts back in the early 1990's and just the other day I saw a young lad wearing a Slayer knitted hat.
Time for some new blood to enter the metal stage.
 


Crossover was still around in the early 90's?

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Crossover was still around in the early 90's?

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It was in Copenhagen, Denmark. Do not know about the rest of the world...I did not have access to neither a T.V or needless to say...internet back then. So Copenhagen and it's outskirts was pretty much my entire world *Lol*

 

 

 

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It was in Copenhagen, Denmark. Do not know about the rest of the world...I did not have access to neither a T.V or needless to say...internet back then. So Copenhagen and it's outskirts was pretty much my entire world *Lol*
 
 
 
I know that there were some Danish death metal bands coming up in the early 90's, but other than those, I can't think of much coming from Denmark at the time. I'm sure there was a lot more, but it probably didn't get a lot of press internationally.

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For me Slayer was one of those bands that just blew my mind wide open and changed my worldview forever. I think they have a career of great albums and while some of those albums stand out amongst the rest, they all deserve my respect. There isn't a Slayer album that incites disgust in me the way St. Anger or Load Reload does. So while I agree that some of the more recent albums are far cry from Show No Mercy or Hell Awaits I am still sad I didn't get to see them before they disbanded. I will forever kick myself.

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On 4/25/2018 at 11:57 PM, Ikard said:

For me Slayer was one of those bands that just blew my mind wide open and changed my worldview forever. I think they have a career of great albums and while some of those albums stand out amongst the rest, they all deserve my respect. There isn't a Slayer album that incites disgust in me the way St. Anger or Load Reload does. So while I agree that some of the more recent albums are far cry from Show No Mercy or Hell Awaits I am still sad I didn't get to see them before they disbanded. I will forever kick myself.

I have never seen them live either.  I almost bought tickets to see them on their final tour, but the high price stopped me from following through.  In time, I will likely regret it.

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I have never seen them live either.  I almost bought tickets to see them on their final tour, but the high price stopped me from following through.  In time, I will likely regret it.
I saw them live once and they sucked. I had no desire to see them again after that, I prefer to remember them how they were and not how they are now.

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They were really that bad?
Yeah, it was with Jeff Hanneman on their Seasons in the Abyss 20th anniversary tour. Dave Lombardo was the only one that had his shit together, the rest of their performances were lazy and awful. They started to get it together a bit towards the end of the album tracks, and sounded okay on some older songs, but lost it again when they launched into Reign in Blood.

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19 hours ago, BlutAusNerd said:

Yeah, it was with Jeff Hanneman on their Seasons in the Abyss 20th anniversary tour. Dave Lombardo was the only one that had his shit together, the rest of their performances were lazy and awful. They started to get it together a bit towards the end of the album tracks, and sounded okay on some older songs, but lost it again when they launched into Reign in Blood.

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It is weird that they would play so poorly with Hanneman.  I always hear about how they became bad after he died (they certainly went downhill), but were good while he was still playing with them.  Slayer is a band better suited for the studio I guess.

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It is weird that they would play so poorly with Hanneman.  I always hear about how they became bad after he died (they certainly went downhill), but were good while he was still playing with them.  Slayer is a band better suited for the studio I guess.
I don't know about that. Live Undead and Decade of Aggression seem to indicate that they were once pretty incredible live, they were just a band past their prime for at least 20 years at that time. I had heard that their performance had improved with Gary Holt, but I wasn't interested when there were so many other good shows going on.

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19 minutes ago, BlutAusNerd said:

I don't know about that. Live Undead and Decade of Aggression seem to indicate that they were once pretty incredible live, they were just a band past their prime for at least 20 years at that time. I had heard that their performance had improved with Gary Holt, but I wasn't interested when there were so many other good shows going on.

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Darn, how could I have forgotten about "Decade of Aggression."  I think album might jut be the best thing that they ever produced. 

As for their performance with Holt, I think that it is true that they got better.  I remember being really impressed with the live videos I saw of him with Slayer.

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Darn, how could I have forgotten about "Decade of Aggression."  I think album might jut be the best thing that they ever produced. 
As for their performance with Holt, I think that it is true that they got better.  I remember being really impressed with the live videos I saw of him with Slayer.
Well, consider the source. Exodus has had a few duds, but never sank to the depths that Slayer did, and we're arguably better than them when they were both at their best.

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Just now, BlutAusNerd said:

Well, consider the source. Exodus has had a few duds, but never sank to the depths that Slayer did, and we're arguably better than them when they were both at their best.

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For some reason, Exodus never engaged me as much as Slayer did.  I will have to check them out again.

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27 minutes ago, BlutAusNerd said:

Here, let me help you with that:
 

 


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That was awesome - I have definitely been missing out on this band.  While I still prefer Araya's vocals, the guitar work was hard to argue with.  Their solo actually went somewhere too, unlike the shredding messes that Slayer usually create.

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That was awesome - I have definitely been missing out on this band.  While I still prefer Araya's vocals, the guitar work was hard to argue with.  Their solo actually went somewhere too, unlike the shredding messes that Slayer usually create.
They're a lot more musicality and less noisy than Slayer. Paul Baloff's vocals are a bit of an acquired taste, but the musicianship makes it worth it. The drums in particular are massively underrated, I love Tom Hunting's style.

I prefer their second vocalist Steve "Zetro" Souza, with his nasty snarl that sounds like Bon Scott from AC/DC gone thrash. This is from my favorite album of theirs with his sick vocals:



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