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10/10  First off, the vocalist had an excellent voice that was a perfect match to the music.  It was well balanced - not too high and not too low.  The guitar tone was dark nicely distorted.  The highlight for me, however, were the riffs.  Taken in isolation from one another, they were all masterful.  The real talent from the musicians was clear in the parts in which the riffs transitioned into one another.  The entire song was a smooth, coherent whole.

 

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The song is allright. The political propaganda is beyond lame. (Then again, everyone's a deep thinker nowadays. Brains no requirement, all you need is an accoutrement of base feelings. And a gun. How can that go wrong?) Anyway, looking away from the video, Queensryche were among the better of the 80s hair metal bands. I'll be generous and offer them 6/10.

 

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2 hours ago, MaxFaust said:

The song is allright. The political propaganda is beyond lame. (Then again, everyone's a deep thinker nowadays. Brains no requirement, all you need is an accoutrement of base feelings. And a gun. How can that go wrong?) Anyway, looking away from the video, Queensryche were among the better of the 80s hair metal bands. I'll be generous and offer them 6/10.

 

I do believe you misspelled progressive metal there mate. Oh and 1/10 if I want something that sounds like Motorhead I'll take the real thing thanks, they do it far better.

 

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4 hours ago, RelentlessOblivion said:

I do believe you misspelled progressive metal there mate. Oh and 1/10 if I want something that sounds like Motorhead I'll take the real thing thanks, they do it far better.

Nope. "Hair metal" may be somewhat misguiding ... so how about "light metal" (as opposed to heavy metal)? Progressive metal wasn't a thing until well into the 90s (at the earliest) ... whereas I formed my (low) opinion of Queensryche during the 80s. They were definitely in the "MTV circuit" (that were called hair metal, poodle rock, etc. at the time) of record company controlled high-budget productions that were churning out "products" rather than art. So you like them. So what? Not everybody's cup of tea. Fucking girly drama queens that they are. 2/10.

FYI, "biker rock" (of which Motorhead is a fine example) and/or "biker metal" was a thing long before Motorhead. Chapel may sound like Motorhead to the untrained ear, but that's because they're a biker band. Like these guys (from 1972):

 

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I can't even begin to tell you what's wrong with that statement. What you think out of nowhere suddenly Dream Theater started doing their (boring btw) thing out of nowhere? The lineage is as plain for prog metal as it is for black metal. It always bothers me when people ignore the origins of a genre because it evolved into something different. The unfortunate thing with Queensryche is taking their songs in isolation doesn't offer the same experience as an entire album.

 

EDIT: Untrained ear? That's a laugh. They sound like a Motorhead clone and even if those are staples of the genre you can still sound unique. Metallica sound different to Death Angel sound different to Kreator sound different to Vektor but all are playing thrash. Bathory sound different to Enslaved sound different to Hades but all played Viking Metal. Now I won't rate that song because I can't give it a fair chance right now.

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2 hours ago, MaxFaust said:

Nope. "Hair metal" may be somewhat misguiding ... so how about "light metal" (as opposed to heavy metal)? Progressive metal wasn't a thing until well into the 90s (at the earliest) ... whereas I formed my (low) opinion of Queensryche during the 80s. They were definitely in the "MTV circuit" (that were called hair metal, poodle rock, etc. at the time) of record company controlled high-budget productions that were churning out "products" rather than art. So you like them. So what? Not everybody's cup of tea. Fucking girly drama queens that they are. 2/10.

FYI, "biker rock" (of which Motorhead is a fine example) and/or "biker metal" was a thing long before Motorhead. Chapel may sound like Motorhead to the untrained ear, but that's because they're a biker band. Like these guys (from 1972):

 

7.5/10, the solo at 3:00 is pretty catchy. Unfortunately It's the first time I stumble across this band, so I'm not familiar with their style at all. Might fix this later

 

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7 hours ago, MaxFaust said:

Nope. "Hair metal" may be somewhat misguiding ... so how about "light metal" (as opposed to heavy metal)? Progressive metal wasn't a thing until well into the 90s (at the earliest) ... whereas I formed my (low) opinion of Queensryche during the 80s. They were definitely in the "MTV circuit" (that were called hair metal, poodle rock, etc. at the time) of record company controlled high-budget productions that were churning out "products" rather than art. 

 

Funny how you think this argument is "eternally weak" when it comes to Butcher Babies, but somehow holds water when it comes to Queensryche.

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Funny how you think this argument is "eternally weak" when it comes to Butcher Babies, but somehow holds water when it comes to Queensryche.
Clearly the ladies from Butcher Babies are concealing deep artistic sensibilities within their plastic chests, whereas Queensrÿche is about the most trendy partying cock rock band of the 80's. To the untrained eye/ear, that black nipple tape hides their raw expression to all posers who wouldn't "get it" and don't belong among the metal crowd.

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9 hours ago, FatherAlabaster said:

Funny how you think this argument is "eternally weak" when it comes to Butcher Babies, but somehow holds water when it comes to Queensryche.

Have I said that I dislike Queenryche? Or that they were "fake"? I said that they were among the better of the "light metal" bands. Besides, you're misquoting me. I said the position was weak, not the argument. Enough ad hominem though. Taste is ill suited for debate.

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5 hours ago, MaxFaust said:

Have I said that I dislike Queenryche? Or that they were "fake"? I said that they were among the better of the "light metal" bands. Besides, you're misquoting me. I said the position was weak, not the argument. Enough ad hominem though. Taste is ill suited for debate.

That's true, taste makes for poor debates. You're allowed to dislike something. You're not allowed to misrepresent that thing or it's significance. The argument was never actually about taste and was always about the latter subject.

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1 hour ago, RelentlessOblivion said:

You're not allowed to misrepresent that thing or it's significance.

Oh, so that's what you think happened here?

Pathetic. "Prog" has existed since the fucking 60s, man. During the 80s it was about Yes, Marillion, etc. There was no such thing as "prog metal" until quite recently. Queensryche was considered hair metal at least until they released Operation Mindcrime (after which they started to be taken more seriously). Trying to retrofit that shit and rewrite history (to support your own position of authority) won't work until all those who can actually remember how it went down have died out. 

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Speaking with the people I know who lived it that simply isn't true. They were regarded as a prog band from Mindcrime, a band with some prog tendencies before that. Moreover Fates Warning and Crimson Glory were both Prog/Power metal bands from the eighties, Coroner were prog/thrash and also started in the eighties. You're wrong to suggest prog didn't exist until the last fifteen years hence the argument happening in the first place. But hey feel free to live in your delusion while we all laugh at you.

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Speaking with the people I know who lived it that simply isn't true. They were regarded as a prog band from Mindcrime, a band with some prog tendencies before that. Moreover Fates Warning and Crimson Glory were both Prog/Power metal bands from the eighties, Coroner were prog/thrash and also started in the eighties. You're wrong to suggest prog didn't exist until the last fifteen years hence the argument happening in the first place. But hey feel free to live in your delusion while we all laugh at you.
Don't forget about Voivod. What the hell would you call Nothingface if not progressive metal?

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7 hours ago, RelentlessOblivion said:

Now back to the game. Angelcorpse, very nice I like 7/10

 

10/10  I struggle to find any fault with this song.  The guitar riffs are all great.  I especially like the synth that plays in the background of the first riff.  They have the perfect balance between moving the music forward whilst also sounding good repeated.  The guitar tone was very nice as well - high enough without being too high.  The vocalist's voice matched the music perfectly.

 

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