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35 minutes ago, RelentlessOblivion said:

Only if we're counting commercial viability and critical acclaim as credit. Holy Terror have garnered a good deal of recognition amongst metalheads these days. Poor production is nothing new in metal and so shouldn't preclude a band from recieving their props. Holy Terror are energetic, wrote some killer riffs, and fall victim to the time in which they formed. Think of how many other incredible bands were overlooked thanks to the rise of Megadeth and co.

What would make Holy Terror less commercially viable than any other band on the planet. I don't buy into that at all. If your music is good enough and your band gains enough of a following then your work speaks for itself. Enough HUGE bands still around today have come from nothing, worked hard and created a following. 

Maybe if they had been good enough they could have been added as a fifth in the big four of thrash but that did not happen for a reason. 

Short output bands tend to get a cult following and spoken about only in what ifs, what if they got more critical acclaim? What if they were more commercially viable? nonsense, what if they were just better at what they did and that would have brought them the notoriety that people claim they should have? 

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2/10 I hate that album and song. Paschendale is the only song I half like from that record.    

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Haha 8/10 for the joke but 2/10 for the song sorry mate.  

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Intense, energetic, chaotic stuff FA. I like it 8/10  

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34 minutes ago, Fraser said:

What would make Holy Terror less commercially viable than any other band on the planet. I don't buy into that at all. If your music is good enough and your band gains enough of a following then your work speaks for itself. Enough HUGE bands still around today have come from nothing, worked hard and created a following. 

Maybe if they had been good enough they could have been added as a fifth in the big four of thrash but that did not happen for a reason. 

Short output bands tend to get a cult following and spoken about only in what ifs, what if they got more critical acclaim? What if they were more commercially viable? nonsense, what if they were just better at what they did and that would have brought them the notoriety that people claim they should have? 

That's partly true in as much as a band can be commercially viable in spite of their sound. That being said it only works for specific artists. Holy Terror were not one of those bands. The simple fact is poor production hampered them as it hindered many bands.

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22 hours ago, RelentlessOblivion said:

The stoner/doom thing doesn't often work for me. It's seldom offensive but just not my preferred listening material 5/10

 

Back to thread anyway, Pantera again, love the band and the majority of the music. 8/10 for this track alone. 

 

 

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What would make Holy Terror less commercially viable than any other band on the planet. I don't buy into that at all. If your music is good enough and your band gains enough of a following then your work speaks for itself. Enough HUGE bands still around today have come from nothing, worked hard and created a following. 
Maybe if they had been good enough they could have been added as a fifth in the big four of thrash but that did not happen for a reason. 
Short output bands tend to get a cult following and spoken about only in what ifs, what if they got more critical acclaim? What if they were more commercially viable? nonsense, what if they were just better at what they did and that would have brought them the notoriety that people claim they should have? 
So anyone who didn't sell as many records as the Big 4 aren't as good? Way to discredit literally hundreds of thrash bands that released great albums around this time, albums that were in many cases better than the Big 4's albums.

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On 4/4/2018 at 1:11 AM, Fraser said:

But they were a group made up of sub-par musicians (With exceptions to Keith) that never elevated to the notoriety that so many call for these days for that simple fact. Sub-Par. You only have to look at the success of bands like Slayer or Megadeth to realise this. 

>Kurt Kilfelt

>subpar musician 

Pick one. The guy's written and performed some of the best guitar interplay in thrash and apparently, he's just not good. OK. 

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13 hours ago, Ekthelion said:

>Kurt Kilfelt

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Pick one. The guy's written and performed some of the best guitar interplay in thrash and apparently, he's just not good. OK. 

Sub-par when compared to others in the genre by a long way YES. In my opinion. 

Dave Mustaine, Marty Friedman, Jeff Waters, Alex Skolnick. Would you like me to list another 10 that I would rate a lot higher when talking about Thrash guitarists? 

Personal opinion is not fact, remember that. 

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Sub-par when compared to others in the genre by a long way YES. In my opinion. 
Dave Mustaine, Marty Friedman, Jeff Waters, Alex Skolnick. Would you like me to list another 10 that I would rate a lot higher when talking about Thrash guitarists? 
Personal opinion is not fact, remember that. 
Maybe for soloing ability, but none of those guys could write riffs as good as Holy Terror's.

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4 hours ago, BlutAusNerd said:

Maybe for soloing ability, but none of those guys could write riffs as good as Holy Terror's.

Mustaine could. Hell, probably Friedman for rhythm playing. However, I'm pretty sure Kurt has written material for more great albums than either Skolnick or Waters with Kurt having Terror and Submission, Mind Wars and Skeptics Apocalypse to his name. Skolnick only has The Legacy and New Order while Waters also only has two with Alice in Hell and Never, Neverland.

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