Dimmu Borgir!

[SangreV]

Re: Dimmu Borgir! I think For All Tid is a classic of mid 90s black metal and their best. I enjoy their first few albums, especially Spiritual Black Dimensions and Puritanical Euphoric Misanthropia but unfortunately Dimmu has gotten really stale this past decade. Regarding guitarists, Astennu was hands-down the best guitarist this band ever had. And I wouldn't really say that Old Man's Child was ever really any more straight-forward black metal than Dimmu because OMC is very death metal influenced and has never really, truly fit the black metal mold. I think Galder has always been more inspired more so by death and thrash metal than black metal, despite OMC being labelled as black metal. Born of the Flickering is by far, their best album in my opinion.

[BlutAusNerd]

Re: Dimmu Borgir! I've been told that OMC's pre-album period was death metal, and he definitely has pushed Dimmu and OMC to more of a symphonic melodeath/thrash sound, but bands have run sort of parallel to each other. Born of the Flickering and The Pagan Prosperity are bot melodic black metal albums, though less black than other Norwegian bands jumping aboard the style following Euronymous' death, as was Dimmu, and I can't say that I've ever heard any pure death or thrash in his riffing.

[scroogles]

Re: Dimmu Borgir! Dimmu have really suffered for starting out as a Black Metal band. Agreed, they changed their style considerably, but I really don't think any of their stuff can be considered in that genre since PEM, perhaps even earlier - if they'd started out with that sound, they'd have been considered somewhere between extreme gothic/symphonic metal and melodic death metal (depending on which album you listen to). For what its worth, I struggle to think of a band who can match the intensity and power of their sound in those genres, even with their 3-4 filler tracks per album. It's great for a fan of those types of sounds, but I can imagine less so for their old school following...

[LiakosVikernes666]

Dimmu Borgir!

I think Dimmu is awfully bad

I totally agree with you. Dimmu is truly an awful band with awful music. The worst part is that they are really famous. But that's not because they are a good band, but because they are a complete mainstream band. If I'm wrong someone correct me.

[Esther]

I know that many metalheads don't like Dimmu Borgir anymore, but I actually still like their sound. I also like the instrumental versions that can be found on youtube (for example, The Serpentine Offering sounds very powerful) or just Mustis playing some of the tunes on piano. I was also positively surprised with the Forces of the Northern Night Dimmu Borgir (Forces Of The Northern Night - Live At Spektrum, Oslo 2011) - YouTube There IS some northern magic in it

[BlutAusNerd]

I can still listen to their albums and enjoy them (especially the first few), and maybe if I get back into the mood for symphonic BM I'll enjoy them more, but I've been craving more raw and riffy black metal as of late.

[Esther]

I guess I'm (as a girl) more inclined to the softer versions of these more extreme genres

[CannibalKreator666]

Love Dimmu Borgir! Progenies of the Great Apocalypse! (: Dealth Cult Armageddon and Abrahadabra are both GREAT albums. Love all the orchestral stuff of Abrahadabra.

[Metal-Bleed]

Dimmu Borgir , have not lost the power of their vibes. At least for me. I mean , When Gateways first came out ... damn i must've repeat that masterpiece thousand times. I adore them ! I have four T-shirts from them which I have ordered from METAL SHOP.eu

[BlutAusNerd]

Dimmu Borgir , have not lost the power of their vibes. At least for me. I mean , When Gateways first came out ... damn i must've repeat that masterpiece thousand times. I adore them ! I have four T-shirts from them which I have ordered from METAL SHOP.eu

I don't even think I've heard that song. The last album I picked up from them was In Sorte Diaboli, which was pretty disappointing, so I haven't even bothered with the last one. I just listened to all of their albums again a couple of weeks ago (except that one of course) and had forgotten that I really liked a good chunk of their stuff, even Death Cult Armageddon hit the spot for me, which I did not see coming. Maybe I'll give the last one a chance some day, I just have too many other priority albums that are higher up on my list.

[deathstorm]

hell boy had a dimmu borgir song int

[blue]

I like their older albums, When I watched gateways or whatever it was, it seems like they've gone a bit plasticy to appeal to a new teenybopper fanbase. since when was blackmetal all about highly polished and big budget videos.

[blue]

as for their genre, well they're what i'd call symphonic black metal with the emphasis on symphonic more than black.

[Ash Nicole]

I wasn't that crazy about Gateways... I tend to lean more toward their older stuff when it comes to actually enjoying their music. I got into them about five years ago when I was a junior in high school, and was convinced they were the best shit in existence since sliced bread, but that phase ended quickly. They're a pretty awesome band, most definitely. Just wish that the whole shitstorm of drama wouldn't have happened with Vortex; he was one of my favorite members.

[Sardonic]

Personally, I really enjoyed their first two albums, and even their remake of Stormblast. Spiritual Black Dimensions, I believe it was called, was a decent album that I enjoyed. Everything after that, I just find it hard to get into. And with Mustiss (sp?) gone, I haven't even given the band the time of day.

[BlutAusNerd]

Re: Dimmu Borgir!

Personally' date=' I really enjoyed their first two albums, and even their remake of Stormblast. Spiritual Black Dimensions, I believe it was called, was a decent album that I enjoyed. Everything after that, I just find it hard to get into. And with Mustiss (sp?) gone, I haven't even given the band the time of day.[/quote'] I like the songwriting on Stormblast, but the production is horrid, so thin and tinny sounding, even the debut sounded better. Some people were opposed to the re-recording, but that album really needed a facelift. I wouldn't rank either among my favorites, but it is one of the better albums in their catalog. Sent from my HTC PH39100 using Tapatalk 2

[Sardonic]

I like the songwriting on Stormblast, but the production is horrid, so thin and tinny sounding, even the debut sounded better. Some people were opposed to the re-recording, but that album really needed a facelift. I wouldn't rank either among my favorites, but it is one of the better albums in their catalog. Sent from my HTC PH39100 using Tapatalk 2

Yeah, the production of their first two were not the best. But to me, I found that really appealing. Among the terrible quality there was a certain beauty to the music, a harmony among the chaos that shined through all of that. When I finally read the lyrics, they went hand in hand with the music. The remake was like a totally different album tho. But I enjoyed it.

[BlutAusNerd]

Re: Dimmu Borgir!

Yeah' date=' the production of their first two were not the best. But to me, I found that really appealing. Among the terrible quality there was a certain beauty to the music, a harmony among the chaos that shined through all of that. When I finally read the lyrics, they went hand in hand with the music. The remake was like a totally different album tho. But I enjoyed it.[/quote'] I don't have a problem with bad production, I just hate when it's really thin and weak sounding. I would rather trade clarity for a fuller tone, even if the sounds presented aren't as discernable. Sent from my HTC PH39100 using Tapatalk 2

[RelentlessOblivion]

To be blunt I don't give a shit about Dimmu Borgir. Their music never appealed to me and I doubt it ever will.

[Metallisydän]

I love Dimmu Borgir, specially since I heard Hybrid Stigmata. Particularly, I pretty much enjoy the Shagrath's voice. Dunno why, but I think there's something... pornographic, so to say, in the way he sings. I got to realize that when I heard him in Kamelot's March of Mephisto or Memento Mori.

[Vampyrique]

I've never cared what the detractors say, they're an excellent band. But I do have my own criticism: For years it seemed like they were constantly moving forward with great ambition and inspiration but with Death Cult Armageddon, it seemed that they achieved everything that they wanted to achieve and subsequently have become somewhat formulaic and stale ever since. I still think they're fully capable of releasing quality albums but I'm hoping for something different than Darth Vader anthems and recycled riffs.  

 

I'd rank the albums in this order: 

1. For All Tid

2. Puritanical Euphoric Misanthropia

3. Spiritual Black Dimensions

4. Enthrone Darkness Triumphant

5. Death Cult Armageddon

6. Stormblåst

7. In Sorte Diaboli

8. Abrahadabra

 

[BlutAusNerd]

On 8/19/2017 at 10:39 PM, Vampyrique said:

I've never cared what the detractors say, they're an excellent band. But I do have my own criticism: For years it seemed like they were constantly moving forward with great ambition and inspiration but with Death Cult Armageddon, it seemed that they achieved everything that they wanted to achieve and subsequently have become somewhat formulaic and stale ever since. I still think they're fully capable of releasing quality albums but I'm hoping for something different than Darth Vader anthems and recycled riffs.  

 

I'd rank the albums in this order: 

1. For All Tid

2. Puritanical Euphoric Misanthropia

3. Spiritual Black Dimensions

4. Enthrone Darkness Triumphant

5. Death Cult Armageddon

6. Stormblåst

7. In Sorte Diaboli

8. Abrahadabra

 

If you switched Puritanical with Stormblåst, that would probably be my ranking too.

[Vampyrique]

6 hours ago, BlutAusNerd said:

If you switched Puritanical with Stormblåst, that would probably be my ranking too.

Stormblåst is great but I used to hold it in higher regard. It has many excellent moments but the predominant melodic melancholy and samey guitarwork throughout wears on me. For All Tid has a lot more variety and did a better job at creating atmosphere in my opinion. I think it's one of those albums that I need to be in the mood for but, nevertheless, I think it has the potential to win me back again. I'll need to revisit it in the near future along with the re-recording because I almost never listen to that version. 

However, I love Puritanical. It's unapologetically brash in its delivery and presentation. If people thought they were 'sellouts' before this, Puritanical certainly makes a mockery out of that notion by doing exactly what they shouldn't have done in taking everything a step further if not too far. It's probably the quintessential 'fuck you' to the kvlt krowd of black metal elitists, the ultimate sin in album form. Great riffs, hyperfast drumming, excellent symphonic bits and keyboard work, plenty of variety... It's also one of those albums where every song is infectious and can stand on its own, like an album full of hit singles. On this album especially they outgrew their own shadow that was the black metal community and did it without compromising their artistic integrity to any degree. That's how I see it. 

 

 

[BlutAusNerd]

5 minutes ago, Vampyrique said:

Stormblåst is great but I used to hold it in higher regard. It has many excellent moments but the predominant melodic melancholy and samey guitarwork throughout wears on me. For All Tid has a lot more variety and did a better job at creating atmosphere in my opinion. I think it's one of those albums that I need to be in the mood for but, nevertheless, I think it has the potential to win me back again. I'll need to revisit it in the near future along with the re-recording because I almost never listen to that version. 

However, I love Puritanical. It's unapologetically brash in its delivery and presentation. If people thought they were 'sellouts' before this, Puritanical certainly makes a mockery out of that notion by doing exactly what they shouldn't have done by taking everything a step further if not too far. It's probably the quintessential 'fuck you' to the kvlt krowd of black metal elitists, the ultimate sin in album form. Great riffs, hyperfast drumming, excellent symphonic bits and keyboard work, plenty of variety... It's also one of those albums where every song is infectious and can stand on its own, like an album full of hit singles. On this album especially they outgrew their own shadow that was the black metal community and did it without compromising their artistic integrity to any degree. That's how I see it. 

 

 

Puritanical could be looked at as a fuck you and a sellout at the same time, but I wouldn't add any of those positive attributes about it. They stripped a lot of the riffing variety from their prior album, slapped on a hollow, plastic production and symphonic that could make fairycore bands like Nightwish blush, and Shagrath turns in his most whiny sounding vocal performance. Everything they tried and failed at on that album, they did better with Death Cult Armageddon, but I still prefer their earlier sound. As monotonous as it can become, I like that sombre melancholy of Stormblåst, which sounds a bit less sad and a bit more majestic on the re-recording. I hate the idea of re-recordings, but that album needed one, it took on a very different tone with them, and one that I don't think is a bad one despite the consensus.

[Vampyrique]

5 minutes ago, BlutAusNerd said:

Puritanical could be looked at as a fuck you and a sellout at the same time, but I wouldn't add any of those positive attributes about it. They stripped a lot of the riffing variety from their prior album, slapped on a hollow, plastic production and symphonic that could make fairycore bands like Nightwish blush, and Shagrath turns in his most whiny sounding vocal performance. Everything they tried and failed at on that album, they did better with Death Cult Armageddon, but I still prefer their earlier sound. As monotonous as it can become, I like that sombre melancholy of Stormblåst, which sounds a bit less sad and a bit more majestic on the re-recording. I hate the idea of re-recordings, but that album needed one, it took on a very different tone with them, and one that I don't think is a bad one despite the consensus.

I agree regarding the riff variety and all but Spiritual Black Dimensions had Astennu and he is easily the best guitarist the band ever had. So replacing him wasn't an easy task, even with Galder, whom is fairly good. However, I think the guitarwork and riffs on Puritanical work very well within the context of each song and grab my attention more than most of their albums. This may partly be due to PEM's production which highlights the performances of each band member well. I normally don't like the sound overproduced albums but this one has never bothered me that much. Death Cult Armageddon was intentionally produced as if it were a film score or symphony and although it does this well and in a very coherent way, I felt that the guitarwork was less interesting and band performances took a backseat to make way for the orchestra. Understandable, given their desired goal in mind but I didn't like it as much.