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FatherAlabaster
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Why anyone here would want this is beyond me.

Ikard
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I think anyone who seriously listens to Black Metal and extreme metal in general has the ability to differentiate between the dark imagery and subject matter and real life. I think the same goes for m

RelentlessOblivion Grand Master

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Re: Anti Black Metal well Kerry writes all the anti-religious stuff and Tom writes about serial killers, I think I'm right in saying every Slayer song in existance is about one of those two things so far as black metal goes with the exception of the nazi bm bands I'll give all of it a chance, there are some very good black/thrash bands out there like Aura Noir and Absu that are worth checking out

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Re: Anti Black Metal And Jeff does the war/ Nazi stuff? ;) They've covered a broad range of subjects over the years but yeah, for the most part every Slayer album must have (by law) at least one serial killer song and one denouncing religion in general.

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What d'you mean by a stinking radical outcast with a chip on his shoulder? Do you mean to say he was a smelly, foul type one wouldn't want to meet, or that he wasn't very well regarded by most of the Jewish clergy and the dislike was mutual? I don't really understand your statement about which view is more historically AND theologically accurate. The latter is Biblically consistent. And I for one I haven't got the least problem with Christ being Hebrew/Arabic. As for magic, I've been sifting through why people oppose Harry Potter so much for the same reason...and I sure don't see a theological basis for the backlash. And so I listen to power metal... I find the Bible is a lot smarter than most people, even Christians, believe it it to be. I am well and truly fed up with all of the Christians telling me I need to be a 'fool for Christ', so that I must by extension be illogical, myopic, belligerent and anal-retentive. As for this whole anti-black metal thing, I believe the poster needs to realize that this is the real world. If he believes in free speech, then Os Guiness and Gaahl are equally within rights to say what they like. If, however, he does NOT want totally free speech, he should definitely expect some laws legislating against overt Christian symbolism on public property, protests near abortion clinics, teaching Creationism, etc. Lack of free speech hurts everyone. I don't like black metal but it doesn't matter - if I try to legislate against it then not only will Dimmu Borgir suffer, but so will Slechtvalk.
There is practically no corroborative proof of Christ's existence outside of testimonies written long after he died.
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Angel Of Death really is controversial isn't it' date=' probably offends a lot of people who have heard it[/quote'] Yes it does but I definitely subscribe to the POV that Slayer have always said re: this song, ie they're just telling a story and not supporting what this evil man did whatsoever. If anything they condemn him (the chorus is "Infamous butcher- Angel of Death" after all, not "oh great and powerful aryan superman- Angel of Death")!
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I am completely against Black Metal I think everybody deserves the right to beleive what they will without people trying to destroy their beleifs. I also think that the music is far too dark and deamon worship is too far on the beleif scale.
Not sure if someone has already mention this or not, but there is Christian black metal. So that contradicts everything you just said really.
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Re: Anti Black Metal I don't especially care for the generic Christian bashing, Satan hailing arm of black metal. Not that I believe in god or satan as anything other than human constructs in a system of control, I'm just not that interested in Judaeo/Christian mythology. I enjoy black metal because much of it is musically fascinating, evocative and powerfully emotive. You seem to simply be attacking a stereotype adhered to by a mere fraction of the black metal world.

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I don't especially care for the generic Christian bashing' date=' Satan hailing arm of black metal. Not that I believe in god or satan as anything other than human constructs in a system of control, I'm just not that interested in Judaeo/Christian mythology. I enjoy black metal because much of it is musically fascinating, evocative and powerfully emotive. You seem to simply be attacking a stereotype adhered to by a mere fraction of the black metal world.[/quote'] Well said.
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Anti Black Metal The big picture is if you like the music, afterwards come the lyrics. Anyway there are quite a few Black Metal bands that don't contain Satanic lyrics, like Immortal for example which is a really good Black Metal band. The majority of Black Metal carries satanic themes, but there are other bands that are different. Immortal which I mentioned earlier, have lyrics referring to Norway. That's my opinion on the subject.

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you are living proof that the devil works through that music. You have been deceived into beleiving that it isn't evil.
How cute. But no, to respond to this my theological beliefs encourage me to dig in the darker parts of myself and enjoy the night and the day. To take one side is to waste the ability to think and reason, a mostly common human trait that i'm sad to report, is not present in all civilized humans. While it is up to you to create your own opinions, it is pretty "evil" to condemn others (especially those who place forward reasonable and fair arugments) for their opinions using metaphysical proof that is completly unable to be argued with because you cannot budge from your belief system (it's fine to have one). Sad to see how something so popular as faith (again, no problem with people who have faith, but with people who let it limit them and others), can decline the progress of human reason and tolerance. TL;DR - You're a dick
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what is and isn't "evil" is entirely based on one's on interpretation and as such the faithful do tend to stereotype metal in general as evil, this isn't to say that all those who criticise metal are faithful or that all who are faithful criticise metal however. Robert was a complete idiot in my opinion because he firstly slammed black metal based solely on certain traits not shared by all BM bands and secondly grouped everyone who disagreed with him about black metal as being proof that Satan exists and we have all been warped by exposing ourselves to "the devil's music"

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what is and isn't "evil" is entirely based on one's on interpretation and as such the faithful do tend to stereotype metal in general as evil' date=' this isn't to say that all those who criticise metal are faithful or that all who are faithful criticise metal however. Robert was a complete idiot in my opinion because he firstly slammed black metal based solely on certain traits not shared by all BM bands and secondly grouped everyone who disagreed with him about black metal as being proof that Satan exists and we have all been warped by exposing ourselves to "the devil's music"[/quote'] There's no way to argue with a person like him, best to just leave it alone, he won't budge and all it will do it make us red in the face.
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that flame war between RtC and Iceni was among the best I've seen but then again I haven't seen too many around here generally it's an easy going forum
That was not a flame war, that was me getting sick and tired of sitting passively by whilst my beliefs were indecorously mocked. I've given up doing that again since I know that all I'll accomplish is to irritate people.
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no Iceni don't give up, it's important to defend one's beliefs from those who would dismiss them as meaningless, I may be an atheist but I recognise that most religions have something important to offer society, the vehicle of organised religion is what I find fault with not the ideas behind faith

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