Jump to content

Anti Black Metal


Robert8092

Recommended Posts

Re: Anti Black Metal oh I do agree it is great music and it is indeed fascinating couldn't describe it better then that. But my Theological training has taught me that finding a deep fascination with these things leads to being draged into a whole world of pain and evil.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Re: Anti Black Metal

oh I do agree it is great music and it is indeed fascinating couldn't describe it better then that. But my Theological training has taught me that finding a deep fascination with these things leads to being draged into a whole world of pain and evil.
Oh, right. I'm an atheist. :D
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Re: Anti Black Metal First of all I have to say that I personally don't understand your way of thinking when it comes to criticizing music since it seems like you can't describe this whole genre as anything but "too dark" and "demon worshipping", that made me laugh. Black metal is one of my favorite metal subgenres. If you can't come up with any reasonable arguments I think you shouldn't start a whole thread just to tell people that you're against it because of such silly reasons. What are people supposed to discuss in this thread? I think I missed that part. Not all black metal is about worshipping Satan, hating religions and being self-destructive. Most black metal bands enjoy provoking. Generalizing a whole genre like that is just awful and stupid. Musically it's just great, I couldn't survive a whole winter without listening to any of my favorite black metal bands. Atmospheric, fast, rough, anti-christian - it doesn't matter as long as it sounds good. If you are against black metal because you think it's all about destroying beliefs or whatever you are a moron. Why shouldn't people be able to enjoy dark music too?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Re: Anti Black Metal

First of all I have to say that I personally don't understand your way of thinking when it comes to criticizing music since it seems like you can't describe this whole genre as anything but "too dark" and "demon worshipping", that made me laugh. Black metal is one of my favorite metal subgenres. If you can't come up with any reasonable arguments I think you shouldn't start a whole thread just to tell people that you're against it because of such silly reasons. What are people supposed to discuss in this thread? I think I missed that part. Not all black metal is about worshipping Satan, hating religions and being self-destructive. Most black metal bands enjoy provoking. Generalizing a whole genre like that is just awful and stupid. Musically it's just great, I couldn't survive a whole winter without listening to any of my favorite black metal bands. Atmospheric, fast, rough, anti-christian - it doesn't matter as long as it sounds good. If you are against black metal because you think it's all about destroying beliefs or whatever you are a moron. Why shouldn't people be able to enjoy dark music too?
Amen! (See what i did thar ?)
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Re: Anti Black Metal

you are living proof that the devil works through that music. You have been deceived into beleiving that it isn't evil.
Dude. That's stupid :P 1.The devil doesn't exist. 2. That's kind of extremistic, dont ya think ? .. .
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Re: Anti Black Metal

Dude. That's stupid :P 1.The devil doesn't exist. 2. That's kind of extremistic, dont ya think ? .. .
wow, you heard the man . . . you a living proof the devil works through music. why don't we ask some black metal bands and see if the "devil" told them to write the sweet music they come out with . . . i bet they say "the fuck you talking about?!"
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Re: Anti Black Metal

I am completely against Black Metal I think everybody deserves the right to beleive what they will without people trying to destroy their beleifs. I also think that the music is far too dark and deamon worship is too far on the beleif scale.
yes, some black metal is really bad, dark and worships demons. but dude, this is nothing unique what so ever for black metal. infact, I think you'd be surprised if you knew how much of other music that's got the same atributes... you cleary have let yourself go, lose yourself in the music and just let Horgh's drumming fuck your ears. do that and I'm willing to discuss further with you
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Re: Anti Black Metal

I am completely against Black Metal I think everybody deserves the right to beleive what they will without people trying to destroy their beleifs. I also think that the music is far too dark and deamon worship is too far on the beleif scale.
im sorry but abit of a ridiculas statement, so I gather that you think people who Listen to death Metal, like to go around a kill people. :roll: Personally I think blackmetal is one of the purist form of extreme metal with amazing musicans from the drummers, singing, atmosphere etc. but everyone has their own opinon, but kinda surprised to see an anti-blackmetal Topic in the blackmetal section...Lets hope you dont have a dislike for Power,Death,Folk etc ;)
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Re: Anti Black Metal

im sorry but abit of a ridiculas statement, so I gather that you think people who Listen to death Metal, like to go around a kill people. :roll: Personally I think blackmetal is one of the purist form of extreme metal with amazing musicans from the drummers, singing, atmosphere etc. but everyone has their own opinon, but kinda surprised to see an anti-blackmetal Topic in the blackmetal section...Lets hope you dont have a dislike for Power,Death,Folk etc ;)
true that :) we don't want all the topics being overrun by people who dislike what they are about :L feel free to exercise your opinion but keep it civil guys!
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Re: Anti Black Metal I think for one to discuss demon worship first and foremost requires an acknowledgement of God being real, and most black metal uses demonic imagery not to say "woah man, we worship satan dude" but to act in opposition for Christian beliefs. Bear in mind that Christianity swept through many cultures, destroying old traditions and faiths by killing those that refused to convert. We could just as easily call Christianity as dangerous as 'demon worship' in this case. So what of power metal? Is it fair to accept stories of people slaying Orcs and mighty warriors? Isn't that going too far into the realm of myth and non-biblical truth? Some would say so. In fact, if you're a Christian who's Theological training has taught him about demon's you should probably avoid power metal for the same reason. It talks of mythical beasts magic and such. Isn't it all just stories and metaphors? Admittedly, black metal has been more synonymous with church burnings and murders, but Gary Glitter molested children, yet we don't see a backlash against glam rock do we? Whilst I am for freedom of speech, arguments about demons and 'theology' don't really do much for me when they appear to have no sound basis. Does your theology consist of racist hicks teaching you about Jesus as a loving white hippy, or is he a stinking radical outcast with a chip on his shoulder? I know which is more historically and theologically sound. Shame most Christians don't.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.

  • Join Metal Forum

    joinus-home.jpg

  • Our picks

    • Whichever tier of thrash metal you consigned Sacred Reich back in the 80's/90's they still had their moments.  "Ignorance" & "Surf Nicaragura" did a great job of establishing the band, whereas "The American Way" just got a little to comfortable and accessible (the title track grates nowadays) for my ears.  A couple more records better left forgotten about and then nothing for twenty three years.  2019 alone has now seen three releases from Phil Rind and co.  A live EP, a split EP with Iron Reagan and now a full length.

      Notable addition to the ranks for the current throng of releases is former Machine Head sticksman, Dave McClean.  Love or hate Machine Head, McClean is a more than capable drummer and his presence here is felt from the off with the opening and title track kicking things off with some real gusto.  'Divide & Conquer' and 'Salvation' muddle along nicely, never quite reaching any quality that would make my balls tingle but comfortable enough.  The looming build to 'Manifest Reality' delivers a real punch when the song starts proper.  Frenzied riffs and drums with shots of lead work to hold the interest.


      There's a problem already though (I know, I am such a fucking mood hoover).  I don't like Phil's vocals.  I never had if I am being honest.  The aggression to them seems a little forced even when they are at their best on tracks like 'Manifest Reality'.  When he tries to sing it just feels weak though ('Salvation') and tracks lose real punch.  Give him a riffy number such as 'Killing Machine' and he is fine with the Reich engine (probably a poor choice of phrase) up in sixth gear.  For every thrashy riff there's a fair share of rock edged, local bar act rhythm aplenty too.

      Let's not poo-poo proceedings though, because overall I actually enjoy "Awakening".  It is stacked full of catchy riffs that are sticky on the old ears.  Whilst not as raw as perhaps the - brilliant - artwork suggests with its black and white, tattoo flash sheet style design it is enjoyable enough.  Yes, 'Death Valley' & 'Something to Believe' have no place here, saved only by Arnett and Radziwill's lead work but 'Revolution' is a fucking 80's thrash heyday throwback to the extent that if you turn the TV on during it you might catch a new episode of Cheers!

      3/5
      • Reputation Points

      • 10 replies
    • I
      • Reputation Points

      • 2 replies
    • https://www.metalforum.com/blogs/entry/52-vltimas-something-wicked-marches-in/
      • Reputation Points

      • 3 replies

    • https://www.metalforum.com/blogs/entry/48-candlemass-the-door-to-doom/
      • Reputation Points

      • 2 replies
    • Full length number 19 from overkill certainly makes a splash in the energy stakes, I mean there's some modern thrash bands that are a good two decades younger than Overkill who can only hope to achieve the levels of spunk that New Jersey's finest produce here.  That in itself is an achievement, for a band of Overkill's stature and reputation to be able to still sound relevant four decades into their career is no mean feat.  Even in the albums weaker moments it never gets redundant and the energy levels remain high.  There's a real sense of a band in a state of some renewed vigour, helped in no small part by the addition of Jason Bittner on drums.  The former Flotsam & Jetsam skinsman is nothing short of superb throughout "The Wings of War" and seems to have squeezed a little extra out of the rest of his peers.

      The album kicks of with a great build to opening track "Last Man Standing" and for the first 4 tracks of the album the Overkill crew stomp, bash and groove their way to a solid level of consistency.  The lead work is of particular note and Blitz sounds as sneery and scathing as ever.  The album is well produced and mixed too with all parts of the thrash machine audible as the five piece hammer away at your skull with the usual blend of chugging riffs and infectious anthems.  


      There are weak moments as mentioned but they are more a victim of how good the strong tracks are.  In it's own right "Distortion" is a solid enough - if not slightly varied a journey from the last offering - but it just doesn't stand up well against a "Bat Shit Crazy" or a "Head of a Pin".  As the album draws to a close you get the increasing impression that the last few tracks are rescued really by some great solos and stomping skin work which is a shame because trimming of a couple of tracks may have made this less obvious. 

      4/5
      • Reputation Points

      • 4 replies
×
×
  • Create New...