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"Djent" is the sound that the guitarist from meshuggah invented' date=' heavily palmmuted, 4 string power chord thing, and yes, Meshuggah is Djent, even the first Djent band. And if you say that it's pointless, you might as well say that all under-labels off Metal is pointless.[/quote'] The sound their guitars make is a "chugging" noise, not djent. Labels are great, when they're valid.
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It is a subgenre of Metal' date=' since the Sound, has made it into a Name for the style of music, Therefore turning it into a Sub genre, and one of the fastest growing, and most awesome ones too.[/quote'] Relaxxxxxx. :lol: Everyone is entitled to their opinion here. I'm not the one to make decisions, so I doubt it's going anywhere. ;)
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I haven't heard that one. I find that pretty hard to believe based on their other records, but I'll take your word for it. 8-) Still, I wouldn't call them a technical thrash band based on one album. Seems like a bit of a stretch.
I wouldnt either, I'm not the one that made the comment, technical groove metal seems to fit their later style better. If you care to hear it, I posted a video of a song from their first album in the Advanced Thrash thread in the thrash section, along with many other thrash recommendations, i think it's near the bottom of the second group I posted.
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Re: Meshuggah. Recently, I've found some material that I like by these guys: from Nothing and Koloss, specifically. Kidman's vocals took a long time to grow on me, and I still don't like them most of the time. The rhythms are undeniably inventive, and often great. However, I do still think that they're one of the most overrated bands ever. They may be brilliant, but oddball rhythms don't serve as a panacea for criticism. Bleed is a good example. The lead riff is undeniably challenging to play, but to play it for a good three minutes straight gets a bit old.

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Re: Meshuggah. I'm not awed by technical wizardry, being able to play well doesn't mean anything if you don't know what to do with it. Meshuggah is definitely a case of using their advanced technical abilities to craft something unique, and the songs and atmosphere they create with that talent is where their appeal lies for me.

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I fail to see how djent is a legitimate member of the metal family tree. Not to mention some of the core nonsense thats added on for 17 year olds to dance to.
One of the few times I agree with you. Periphery's new album is a great example of this core nonsense you speak of. Djent was originally a term for a specific guitar sound...but now, because a bunch of bands copied it and added all of this pop-ish baggage, it qualifies as a different genre. Djent is like 'guilt metal' - it's only considered metal because of the guitar work. The rest of it is pretty poppy and core-filled. If I'm honest, I've never found a single 'djent' band with a vocalist whose voice doesn't crack into a per-pubescent whine or scream after about a minute. Except Meshuggah.
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Re: Meshuggah. The vocals are ofcourse taste, i love them. But when you say that the only thing that makes it Metal is the Guitars, you're wrong. All the instruments, and also the vocals are extremly technincal, and if you actually listen to it, without thinking that it's crap before you listen to it. You're going to hear that the people performing it is amazing, and that the vocals are not only a "Pre-pubescent whine or scream" .

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All the instruments' date=' and also the vocals are extremly technincal, and if you actually listen to it, without thinking that it's crap before you listen to it. You're going to hear that the people performing it is amazing, and that the vocals are not only a "Pre-pubescent whine or scream" .[/quote'] :roll: I have listened to it. There was a point at which I genuinely had no idea what it was and listened to a YouTube collection of djent. I've heard Periphery, Circles, Ananta, Volumes, The Human Abstract, TesseracT, Haunted Shores and Vildhjarta. None of their vocals are consistently good. TesseracT and Haunted Shores have their moments, though.
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not a fan of Meshuggah' date=' tried listening to them but I just find them boring, in fact the djent I've heard is all pretty boring, it does have a distinct sound and so could be a stand alone genre but I still don't like it[/quote'] I'd recommend some of the material from ObZen. That seemed to be one of their better albums, along with Nothing and Koloss. Meshuggah is good but ridiculously overrated.
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