Metallica- Lux AEterna

[Dead1]

7 hours ago, JonoBlade said:

You're thinking about it like there is only one AI computer and only a select few will have access to it. No doubt a lot of pop music will be generated, but it's not like there is a processing limit.

 

 

Fuck this shit.  Sure modern music is entertainment, even metal.  But it should still be created as human art and human expression.  It's already gone astray with pro-tools etc.

 AI music just further cheapens it.

[navybsn]

I thought Five flavored fruit punch was AI generated by the bro-est bro-puter known to man.

[AlSymerz]

3 minutes ago, navybsn said:

Five flavored fruit punch

Gotta say, that's a missed opportunity there, they really should have named themselves that!

 

[Dead1]

Five Flavoured Fruit Punch literally made me laugh!

[JonoBlade]

12 hours ago, GoatmasterGeneral said:

I don't care what anyone says my friend, there is no way AI will ever be able to successfully replicate most genres of music because I believe the problem of successfully accounting for and adjusting for those intangible human imperfection and emotion factors will just prove too insurmountable. I think it could learn to handle some EDM and basic pop melodies fairly well though. I even think it could eventually be taught to half-ass it on some other genres, and some portion of music fans would surely be satisfied with that. Look at some of the heinous crap that sells tens of millions even now.

But the discerning music fan such as you or I or most of our other metal comrades here would not be fooled and would not be in any way satisfied with or accepting of a facsimile. 

It is merely my job to provoke.

I don't "agree" with it, but technology will likely move on to the point where there is a blurred and imperceptible line between fantasy and reality (a "successful replication"). I don't waste much of my day thinking about it, but this is inevitable....or the alternative is total destruction. Humanity only has those two paths open to it. The third would be stagnation....which I am perfectly fine with, but just don't think it is likely. 

A caveman would lose his shit over not believing he just saw a locomotive, let alone a smart phone.

But, yeah, we'll probably be dead. Just. 

[GoatmasterGeneral]

7 hours ago, JonoBlade said:

It is merely my job to provoke.

I don't "agree" with it, but technology will likely move on to the point where there is a blurred and imperceptible line between fantasy and reality (a "successful replication"). I don't waste much of my day thinking about it, but this is inevitable....or the alternative is total destruction. Humanity only has those two paths open to it. The third would be stagnation....which I am perfectly fine with, but just don't think it is likely. 

A caveman would lose his shit over not believing he just saw a locomotive, let alone a smart phone.

But, yeah, we'll probably be dead. Just. 

C'mon man, you've seen all the futuristic sci-fi movies. The line is never imperceptible like the big evil corporations would like everyone to believe. Humans can always spot the difference.

So you seem to believe technology will continue to progress exponentially for the forseeable future, perhaps infinitely until there is no objective reality anymore, we're all just figments of our own imaginations. But you also seem to believe we're on a collision course with disaster and societal collapse within a few hundred years will be inevitable. So I guess the question then is: can we manage to survive as a species long enough to eliminate the line between fantasy and reality. Problem is we and our kids will all be dead before this could happen so we'll never know.

[JonoBlade]

36 minutes ago, GoatmasterGeneral said:

C'mon man, you've seen all the futuristic sci-fi movies. The line is never imperceptible like the big evil corporations would like everyone to believe. Humans can always spot the difference.

So you seem to believe technology will continue to progress exponentially for the forseeable future, perhaps infinitely until there is no objective reality anymore, we're all just figments of our own imaginations. But you also seem to believe we're on a collision course with disaster and societal collapse within a few hundred years will be inevitable. So I guess the question then is: can we manage to survive as a species long enough to eliminate the line between fantasy and reality. Problem is we and our kids will all be dead before this could happen so we'll never know.

In The Matrix no one could tell until some super saviour came along. It might be a bit of a dumb movie, but the idea that virtual reality will be imperceptible from real life is quite plausible (again, I don't even play games, I don't care, but the world moves on without me). I quite liked the idea behind The Peripheral where you can time travel in virtual reality via quantum tunnelling (by sending a data stream, not a DeLorean).

Technological progress is infinite, if not exponential. Unless it hits a catastrophe. I don't think societal collapse within a few hundred years is inevitable. I think societal collapse within my lifetime is highly probable. It's just math. There are now 8 billion people on the planet and everyone thinks they are entitled to a pick up truck and a cheeseburger.

It is true enough that doom-mongers and death cults have been predicting the end for centuries, but you can't cram infinite growth (economic activity or population) into a finite system, so sooner or later the predictions have to be correct. Now the predictions have peer-reviewed research to back them up, not tea leaves or golden tablets pulled out of a hat.

But, it's Friday afternoon. Looking forward to the weekend.