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Hey there,

Anyone can recommend a solid de-esser plugin for Cubase that is effective with black metal screams?

I tried a few free plugins but they really didn't do much, I basically had to automate everything by hand. Given that commercial de-essers can get quite expensive, I'm hesitant to invest without some recommendations.

 

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By hand is the best way I've found. 95% of the time I can just zoom in, cut out the sibilants, and drag their volume handles down until they sit well in the vocal line. Sometimes there will be something that needs more time-consuming fader automation, but not very often. I haven't used a ton of de-essers, but every one of them does either too little, too much, or both. Maybe someone else can chime in with a silver bullet recommendation though.

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I understand how tough it is to find a good de-esser for black metal screams in Cubase. I've been in the same boat, and it's not easy with just free plugins. The trick is to get something that controls the sharp 'ss' sounds without messing with the scream's power.

I've had good luck with the Voxengo Deft Compressor. It's a de-esser and good at focusing on those high, harsh sounds. Plus, it's easy to use, so you won't have to adjust things forever.

By the way, I recently checked out https://faqaudio.com/t/cubase-13/30 and saw some stuff about Cubase 13. They've got new tools that might help with your music, especially the Vox Comp, which is made for working with vocals.

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