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On 11/22/2022 at 3:59 PM, KillaKukumba said:

Yes, I'm the one playing semantics and being contrary. Imagine a world leader only looking at a small selection of data and claiming victory because one factor is on their side.

Yes, you are...glad we agree

...and since we're playing imagination, here's one for you. Imagine looking at entirely subjective data and thinking that just because it can be ranked on a scale, it's somehow any less subjective

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On 11/21/2022 at 11:21 PM, GoatmasterGeneral said:

But then of course on Christmas Eve Goldy messaged and said the guys had talked it over and they wanted him to ask me if I could please not participate in 2019 because I was ruining the integrity of their spreadsheet with all my shitty goat metal.

Haha, that's hilarous and sad. I like scoring the albums I listen to inorder to keep some semblance of ranking for when I do my AOTY, but I often change up the actual finishing order based on taste and "other" merits of the albums. A number is not the whole truth. So it's like a mixed-methods approach to ranking.

And like GG, I end up with a lot of 7's and 8.5's haha!

On 11/21/2022 at 11:21 PM, GoatmasterGeneral said:

But then of course on Christmas Eve Goldy messaged and said the guys had talked it over and they wanted him to ask me if I could please not participate in 2019 because I was ruining the integrity of their spreadsheet with all my shitty goat metal.

Haha, that's hilarous and sad. I like scoring the albums I listen to inorder to keep some semblance of ranking for when I do my AOTY, but I often change up the actual finishing order based on taste and "other" merits of the albums. A number is not the whole truth. So it's like a mixed-methods approach to ranking.

And like GG, I end up with a lot of 7's and 8.5's haha!

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On 11/26/2022 at 3:54 PM, KillaKukumba said:

Imagine thinking I was even trying to offer qualitative data.

Imagine thinking I said you were offering qualitative data.

Let's just cut to brass tacks here. Do you even understand what the original conversation, and my comment specifically, were about? It's a POLL, the entire data set is qualitative...it's quite literally what we are discussing. You can't treat qualitative results like they're quantitative results..they don't tell you the same things.

You're the one who insisted on making a distinction between the term "winner" and "definitive winner", and like I said in my reply, if we're really going to split hairs then the very concept of a definitive winner can not exist in this situation. The Vortex is not a closed population, anyone can join at any time...which makes their results just a sample of the much larger "metal community" opinion. Beyond that, since the Vortex is not a complete list of every music release for the entire year, but again bands can be added at any point, it means the list itself is merely a sample not a population.

By the most literal definition of the term, you cannot have a "definitive winner" based on a poll. No one declares a voting candidate the definitive winner based on the results of a poll. They count the votes taken from the entire voting population.

 

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5 hours ago, Hungarino said:

I totally take credit for that. Great album and I definitely pomoted it. Barely even goat metal though, those guys were such softies.

Or it might have been Necrowretch. Even better album, even less goaty.

Their first album was fairly goatilicious so they get a pass. I don't listen to Necrophobic as often as I used to anymore but in their hey-day they were a great fucking band. 

 

17 minutes ago, SurgicalBrute said:

Still going because you kept replying, but couldn't be assed to quote me, and since I don't autisticly live on here, I'd only find out when I'd stumble across it..

...but if you want to say you were just "taking the piss", cool...whatever you need to tell yourself.

The Orca from down unda has no counter for your superior iron-clad Yankee logic. He is good at building stuff and taking things apart and putting them back together though, I'll give him that.

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