Random metal thoughts

[AlSymerz]

Must keep the bleach pure, covid could strike again any day.

 

[Dead1]

1 hour ago, AlSymerz said:

Must keep the bleach pure,

 

Especially if ones want their arsehole looking beautiful.

[Dead1]

What's in a band name?

Every single band member of The Halo Effect is ex-In Flames! 

And the lineup is actually closer to In Flames in their glory period as well as their commercially successful period:

Jesper Stromblad (1990-2010)

Daniel Svenson (1998-2015)

Peter Iwers (1997-2016)

Niclas Englin (1997-1998, 2011-2021).

Michael Stanne (session vocals and lyrics in 1993-94)

 

Only members left in In Flames are Anders and Bjorn Gellotte who both joined in 1995.  Rest of the band is American including ex-Megadeth guitarist Chris Broderick.

 

So The Halo Effect is closer to In Flames than In Flames are in terms of members (including founding member Jesper Stromblad!!)

Also ironic these ex In Flames and current Dark Tranquillity members had to start a melodic death metal band because their old melodic death metal bands had obviously gone down more mellow pastures.

 

 

 

 

 

[Sheol]

On 2/8/2023 at 5:37 AM, Dead1 said:

So The Halo Effect is closer to In Flames than In Flames are in terms of members (including founding member Jesper Stromblad!!)

Also ironic these ex In Flames and current Dark Tranquillity members had to start a melodic death metal band because their old melodic death metal bands had obviously gone down more mellow pastures

 

Yup, but here's the kicker, the new In Flames is actually good. Like, the best since Colony. Granted, there's still some of the Whine Flames of the 00's left, but it's tempered by good songwriting. I'm as shocked as you, but I really like Foregone.

[navybsn]

9 hours ago, Sheol said:

Yup, but here's the kicker, the new In Flames is actually good. Like, the best since Colony. Granted, there's still some of the Whine Flames of the 00's left, but it's tempered by good songwriting. I'm as shocked as you, but I really like Foregone.

I am intrigued. As I mentioned recently, I'm not terribly interested in melodeath these days, but best since Colony? I'm going to have to give it a go.

[Dead1]

11 hours ago, Sheol said:

Yup, but here's the kicker, the new In Flames is actually good. Like, the best since Colony. Granted, there's still some of the Whine Flames of the 00's left, but it's tempered by good songwriting. I'm as shocked as you, but I really like Foregone.

But Anders still opens his mouth....I've heard one track and he still whines like some sad junkie emo looking to suck dick for crack.

 

[True Belief]

Easily the best since Come Clarity (which itself is the only post Colony album worth owning). Front loaded with aggression that the second half can't maintain, but yeah, it's the first time in 15 years I have listened to an In Flames album and been left with anything other than the taste of disgust in my mouth. Pretty good.

I wonder if it's a coincidence that The Halo Effect form and suddenly IF get their balls back?

[AlSymerz]

Hey @Dead1 if you don't already follow them check out Thrashmania on Facebook. It's not the best FB page and they pretty much only post albums but currently they are doing a 2022 retrospective pitting one album against another. Some of them aren't great but it's proving an easy way to find 2022 releases that slipped under the radar.

The do have a website but it's not updated as often as the FB page which is currently listing 2 albums every few hours.

[Dead1]

AlSymerz,  I'll have a look.

[AlSymerz]

They just put Kreator up against Megadeth. I guess it's about the only way either album is going to get into the second round!

[Dead1]

Kreator's new one was terrible.  The sound was painful to listen to.

 

I enjoyed the new Megadeth - probably my favourite album of theirs since Endgame.

[AlSymerz]

I don't hate either, but there was definitely better albums released in 2022.

[Dead1]

Kreator are completely out of ideas and go for that Nuclear Blast sterile production.  They sound more like Arch Enemy these days than Kreator.

[AlSymerz]

Thrash is dead!

[GoatmasterGeneral]

We should be so lucky!

Although one might be led to assume it was on life support if only going by recent swill from the likes of Megadeaf and Kreator.

[Thatguy]

1 hour ago, GoatmasterGeneral said:

We should be so lucky!

Yep, if only.

 

6 hours ago, True Belief said:

Easily the best since Come Clarity (which itself is the only post Colony album worth owning). Front loaded with aggression that the second half can't maintain, but yeah, it's the first time in 15 years I have listened to an In Flames album and been left with anything other than the taste of disgust in my mouth. Pretty good.

Yeah - and I gave it a listen on the basis of this and other recos but I couldn't make it past the first track - so, nah.

[AlSymerz]

And if thrash was dead there'd be a whole slew of ex-thrash bands trying to remain fashionable playing metal by numbers, or black metal, as it's better known.

 

[GoatmasterGeneral]

42 minutes ago, AlSymerz said:

And if thrash was dead there'd be a whole slew of ex-thrash bands trying to remain fashionable playing metal by numbers, or black metal, as it's better known.

 

If you were to actually listen to some black metal you might realize what an amusingly erroneous statement that is. There is far more variety/disparity/diversity/inconsistency between different black metal bands and the plethora of various different black metal micro-sub-genres than you'll find within thrash or death or any other metal sub-genre that I can think of. For example look at all the black metal albums Doc posts, or Johan or Surge or Zack or some of these other members post that I wouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole. I have absolutely no problem with people slagging off or hating on black metal, I get that it's certainly not for everyone. But to dismiss it as being "by the numbers" just reveals an orca's ignorance. 

But in all seriousness I have no desire to pull the plug on thrash metal. Truth is I do genuinely like thrash metal and speed metal when it's done well. Back in the mid 80's I assumed I'd be a bullet-belted neck-wrecking thrash-banger for the rest of my days. But then in subsequent decades I found that there are other metal sub-genres (namely black & death) that give me much more of what I like about thrash metal, just without all those cringey yelping vocals that I could surely live without. If it wasn't for the damn vocals I would probably be listening to a lot more thrash than I do.

[AlSymerz]

Yeah metal by numbers was a bit harsh, dot-to-dot metal with shading outside the lines is probably more accurate.

 

[GoatmasterGeneral]

But since you've already stipulated to the fact that you don't actually understand the basic differences between the main extreme metal sub-genres (besides your beloved thrash obviously) or just what exactly makes something qualify as black or death metal, then how can anyone be expected to take anything you say about black or death metal seriously? You don't fully understand what these genre names even mean because you admittedly don't care. Fair enough, there's no law that says you have to care. But then why comment about it at all? It'd be like someone who's colorblind discussing their favorite shades of blue or green or yellow when it all just looks grey to them anyway.

[AlSymerz]

19 minutes ago, GoatmasterGeneral said:

, then how can anyone be expected to take anything you say about black or death metal seriously?

Ding dong, hand the man his fish!

 

[GoatmasterGeneral]

To an orca, all marine life looks like lunch.

[AlSymerz]

Well, we usually feed the goats blackberries but I though there had been enough barbs this afternoon.

[GoatmasterGeneral]

Goats are stupid, they'll eat just about anything.

[AlSymerz]

They're cheap too, about $15 each. Makes then very cheap lawnmowers and paddock clearers