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Mortiis is most likely in there because of his tie to Emperor and there was a time they would include someone's side projects into the Archives even if they weren't metal..this was way early on from what I can tell (Mortiis was added back in 2002).

Other people have tried to push for Bodycount with claims they're either a metalcore band, or as Dead said, a crossover band, but the responses from mods is almost universally that they're more hardcore than metal (checked a couple of the appeal threads)

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Here's an interesting interview with ex-Exodus guitarist, Rick Hunolt.

He talks about why Metallica took Kirk on to replace Dave Mustaine but I found this bit the most interesting:

https://blabbermouth.net/news/ex-exodus-guitarist-rick-hunolt-why-metallica-chose-kirk-hammett-to-replace-dave-mustaine

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"Back in the day, when you went to go see METALLICA, the reason why you went to go see METALLICA is because we wanted to go see Dave — that's it," Rick continued. "Dave played lead guitar. He spoke in between songs. James sang — that's all he did. He didn't play rhythm guitar. It was the Dave Mustaine show. Period. That's it. And he was funny as shit — drunk. Oh, God, he was awesome. Dave was, like, the king back then.

 "How you get kicked out of your own band, I don't know," Hunolt added. "I don't wanna talk about that… But as far as I'm concerned, personally, Dave Mustaine is the godfather of thrash metal."

 

 

 

So James just sang and didn't play guitar live in early Metallica?!?

 

 

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I remember reading that and thinking that his story probably has some elements of the truth about it, but Dave Mustaine will still be able to find a way to be offended by it!!!
 

23 minutes ago, Dead1 said:

So James just sang and didn't play guitar live in early Metallica?

Was only for short time if I remember correctly.

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1 hour ago, KillaKukumba said:

I remember reading that and thinking that his story probably has some elements of the truth about it, but Dave Mustaine will still be able to find a way to be offended by it!!!

Dave did say there's 3 parts to any story - his version, the other guy's version and then the truth somewhere in the middle!  

He's a whiny arsehole but I do think he is on point many times unlike says Lars who just comes across as a try hard sycophant.  As for James, he just comes across as tired of the whole thing...he even once admitted Metallica did albums out of obligation.

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Yeah I agree. Dave can be the biggest dick in the world, and often proves it. But there are times when he also admits his stories may not be the god honest truth. The dude is a classic Jekyll and Hyde case but he either doesn't see it or doesn't care. Dickheads like Lars only have one personality and it's 'right at all costs'.

 

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9 hours ago, Dead1 said:

Here's an interesting interview with ex-Exodus guitarist, Rick Hunolt.

He talks about why Metallica took Kirk on to replace Dave Mustaine but I found this bit the most interesting:

https://blabbermouth.net/news/ex-exodus-guitarist-rick-hunolt-why-metallica-chose-kirk-hammett-to-replace-dave-mustaine

So James just sang and didn't play guitar live in early Metallica?!?

This was the piece which caused me to go off on the AI tangent yesterday. That, and a memory of the below. Sure as hell looks like James is playing guitar to me.

 

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6 hours ago, KillaKukumba said:

Dickheads like Lars only have one personality and it's 'right at all costs'.

I'm out on a limb here, but I reckon Lars is quite self-aware. He was a true fanatic about the underground metal scene and took the meagre skills he was given to being in (and the driving force behind) the biggest band in the world.  

Dave Mustaine was unbridled talent but had a self destructive streak and was eventually susceptible to kooky ideas, like god.  

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26 minutes ago, JonoBlade said:

I'm out on a limb here, but I reckon Lars is quite self-aware. He was a true fanatic about the underground metal scene and took the meagre skills he was given to being in (and the driving force behind) the biggest band in the world.  

Dave Mustaine was unbridled talent but had a self destructive streak and was eventually susceptible to kooky ideas, like god.  

Actually, I think that's a pretty good assessment. 

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2 hours ago, JonoBlade said:

I'm out on a limb here, but I reckon Lars is quite self-aware. He was a true fanatic about the underground metal scene and took the meagre skills he was given to being in (and the driving force behind) the biggest band in the world.  

Dave Mustaine was unbridled talent but had a self destructive streak and was eventually susceptible to kooky ideas, like god.  

 

I agree  but I think Lars is no longer the same guy he was in 1980s.  He doesn't come across as self aware these days.  Instead he very much comes across as a corporate marketing shill in interviews and what little we see of him personally is arrogance.

Dave on the other hand hasn't changed, though that is a bad thing.

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9 hours ago, JonoBlade said:

I'm out on a limb here, but I reckon Lars is quite self-aware. He was a true fanatic about the underground metal scene and took the meagre skills he was given to being in (and the driving force behind) the biggest band in the world.  

Dave Mustaine was unbridled talent but had a self destructive streak and was eventually susceptible to kooky ideas, like god.  

I don't disagree with you, but I still think Lars a dickhead who only sees himself and what his next action will do for him. Lars needs to be the person people are talking about, he needs to be the centre of attention and he needs the credit for what has been done. Does he deserve it all? Maybe, but he also has the kind of demeanour that makes him the first person to be punched in the face in a pub.

Dave's problem has always been and will always be his mouth, he's the second person in the pub to get a punch in the face, but chances are he'll be helped up after the punch has been thrown, possibly even by the person throwing the punch.

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On 11/29/2022 at 10:25 AM, SurgicalBrute said:

That's Mia Wallace (the blond)...she plays with Abbath now.

This is Jamie Lee Cussigh, who looks a lot like Vanja Šlajh from a distance. My buddy (Bob) and I thought it was the same bass player in Triptykon and Triumph of Death until we saw Vanja standing off to the side while they were on stage.

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Here's a picture I took at the Hobart gig.

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12 hours ago, Thatguy said:

Here's a picture I took at the Hobart gig.

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Nice...I've got a few good shots of them (and her, because like I said, we were trying to figure out if it was Vanja or not) at MDF that I'd be happy to upload, but the site always gives me shit about my images being too big 😬.

Got a couple of good ones of Triptykon as well

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8 minutes ago, SurgicalBrute said:

Nice...I've got a few good shots of them (and her, because like I said, we were trying to figure out if it was Vanja or not) at MDF that I'd be happy to upload, but the site always gives me shit about my images being too big 😬.

Got a couple of good ones of Triptykon as well

The file size limit here is very low. Upload somewhere like Imgur and then copy and paste the url of the actual image, and it should embed automatically.

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Race has never mattered much in rock/metal but here we go with Revolver mag making race an issue with some shoegaze mob where it's all about the guy's race (as well as his self- proclaimed attractiveness).

 

https://www.revolvermag.com/music/cold-gawd-deftones-endorsed-band-want-make-shoegaze-black-again?fbclid=IwAR3HuARFAX2jnAoXduJHkJ2--K2qVup1H9djxZuv5MkWiCSKZpk2ImM1VlY

 

We really don't need this kind of thing.  It's more divisive than inclusive. 

 

Let the music speak for itself.

 

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3 hours ago, Dead1 said:

 

We really don't need this kind of thing.  It's more divisive than inclusive. 

My real issue with articles like this is that even though they talk about "people of color" what they really mean is specifically Black/African American. They almost always ignore the massive number of fans and performers who come from Hispanic/Latino, Asian, or pretty much any other minority racial background because if they were to acknowledge it, the conversation would have to be a lot more nuanced

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I find it strange how many people still refer to Death Angel in less then ideal terms, like calling them Chinese or suggesting they can't be American, or even suggesting they shouldn't be part of the Bay Area thrash collective. More than likely these sorts of people are only doing it to be edgy or get a rise from someone but there was a thing on M-A forums as recently as a few weeks ago where mods had to step in to remove posts about the band not being included along side Exodus and Testament.

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