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Is it rare for girls to be thrash metal fans?


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Hey guys, I am very new to this genre, and I found that I enjoyed it a lot, so this is exciting for me. ^-^
However, one thing that I have noticed a bit is that it seems very rare for girls to be into thrash metal, at least among my circle of friends and acquaintances, and I believe I only know boys who are thrash metal fans.
I am 18 myself, so maybe it is less common for girls of my generation, but what are your impressions?

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Just now, Sheol said:

I'd say there's not many thrash fans at all right now. Death metal and black metal reigns supreme. Thrash had a huge upsurge in the 00's but it's largely been replaced by death and black.

Oh, thanks, that explains it.
I have had a bit of that feeling myself, although it seems as if it is more popular among guys.

My ex-boyfriend sometimes listened to music that he said was thrash metal though, and I think I started becoming curious of it from there in small steps.
That was about a year ago.

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59 minutes ago, Sheol said:

I'd say there's not many thrash fans at all right now. Death metal and black metal reigns supreme. Thrash had a huge upsurge in the 00's but it's largely been replaced by death and black.

Not sure that is true. The Metallica v Megadeth argument never dies.

....You will know them by the trail of high top sneakers.

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12 minutes ago, JonoBlade said:

Not sure that is true. The Metallica v Megadeth argument never dies.

....You will know them by the trail of high top sneakers.

Ah yeah, that is true.
I just feel as if it is less common for girls to be fans of metal, at least compared to boy fans.

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6 hours ago, Miss_Teala said:

Ah yeah, that is true.
I just feel as if it is less common for girls to be fans of metal, at least compared to boy fans.

For what it is worth, I went to see a gig on Friday night at my local pub that, to my disappointment, was sold out; but I stayed for a beer and noted plenty of women there of all ages. This was more stoner rock than thrash, but my observation is that metal, like everything else, is just more open than it used to be.

I have a 12 year old daughter so have a vested interest in ensuring the barriers keep coming down. It would be great if she liked metal - because at least then we'd have something in common - but fine if she doesn't. We'll always have Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.

 

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4 minutes ago, JonoBlade said:

For what it is worth, I went to see a gig on Friday night at my local pub that, to my disappointment, was sold out; but I stayed for a beer and noted plenty of women there of all ages. This was more stoner rock than thrash, but my observation is that metal, like everything else, is just more open than it used to be.

I have a 12 year old daughter so have a vested interest in ensuring the barriers keep coming down. It would be great if she liked metal - because at least then we'd have something in common - but fine if she doesn't. We'll always have Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.

 

That is nice to know. ^-^
I am not sure why I have been "concerned" about whether there are a lot of female fans or not, but for some reason it felt important in some way - at least when it comes to the fact that I seem to be alone with this passion among my friends.
But it is great to have a lot of fellow fans on this forum. ^-^

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Keep in mind that this is totally anecdotal, but just in my own experience I've noticed that black metal and stoner doom always seemed to be the genres that attracted the most women to them. Not to say I've never known or seen girls who enjoy other styles, but those two genres always seem to be the ones I've noticed with the largest number of female fans...

 

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Thrash metal comes and goes as do the fans. We used to have heaps of girls coming to shows in the 80's, the downside was there was also sleezy shitheads at most of the gigs who spent more time in the pit copping a feel rather than thrashing. It never stopped completely but thanks to the unity of the crowds who often went to the same shows week in week out plenty of the fans grouped together to help remove the pricks that thought that was the best way to thrash. By the 90's thrash was becoming less popular and death metal was taking over, as it did the some of those females fans moved with it. But thrash never really died. I don't think the numbers of females ever got back up to the numbers of the 80's but there is still plenty of females into thrash, although I also think they like many of their male counterparts they are into multiple genres.

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14 hours ago, Miss_Teala said:

Ah yeah, that is true.
I just feel as if it is less common for girls to be fans of metal, at least compared to boy fans.

Welcome to the forum miss t. I hope you've enjoyed your time so far.   I've been to a thrash concert last year of acid reign who were in the British big 4 and whilst most of the fans were boys(actually mostly old boys 😂) there was a few females there having a great time.    Other metal genres have a majority female fans like nightwish. A forum member used to post about this subject because he said alot of females like heavy metal.  Out of interest who are your best thrash bands. Surely Mettalica is in there. Am I right😁

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2 hours ago, blaaacdoommmmfan said:

Welcome to the forum miss t. I hope you've enjoyed your time so far.   I've been to a thrash concert last year of acid reign who were in the British big 4 and whilst most of the fans were boys(actually mostly old boys 😂) there was a few females there having a great time.    Other metal genres have a majority female fans like nightwish. A forum member used to post about this subject because he said alot of females like heavy metal.  Out of interest who are your best thrash bands. Surely Mettalica is in there. Am I right😁

Thank you, blaccckdoommmmfan. 🤗
Ah yes, I have heard the Metallica songs from their first 3 albums, and they have been really good.
I am still getting used to it, but I feel good about it.

It is a very different experience for me, in a lot of ways;
partly because of my personality, and partly because of the kind of music that my friends and I have been into.
My personality is about as far away as one can get from the attitude of thrash metal music - I am really really meek and non-confrontational, pretty quiet, and moved to tears really easily, and my friends and I have mostly been fans of slow ballads and boy bands.
So I am very fascinated by thrash metal, since it is so very different from all that.
It was a bit scary in the beginning, but now it is mostly energetic. ^-^

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On 2/15/2022 at 1:39 AM, Miss_Teala said:

Thank you, blaccckdoommmmfan. 🤗
Ah yes, I have heard the Metallica songs from their first 3 albums, and they have been really good.
I am still getting used to it, but I feel good about it.

It is a very different experience for me, in a lot of ways;
partly because of my personality, and partly because of the kind of music that my friends and I have been into.
My personality is about as far away as one can get from the attitude of thrash metal music - I am really really meek and non-confrontational, pretty quiet, and moved to tears really easily, and my friends and I have mostly been fans of slow ballads and boy bands.
So I am very fascinated by thrash metal, since it is so very different from all that.
It was a bit scary in the beginning, but now it is mostly energetic. ^-^

Great to hear from you miss teala.  The early Mettalica albums are fantastic and lightning is one of my favourite albums now although initially I did not like the first two that much. Well done for listening to different music. Thrash is along way from boy bands

Heavy metal can be confrontational although that's bit of a stereotype as there's lots of variations out there, the atmospheric doomy/death metal I listen to is not so confrontational just sorrowfull 😁but with excellent clean singing in there to lighten the mood. The kind of records that few people buy. 😁But I like them. Ave Maria is even more niche. I got a full album of this one track which includes a wonderful soprano female singer and  funeral doom with it. It was bit different for me to buy. It's been great though.  

I hope you carry on enjoying thrash and heavy metal music in general. What band do you want to hear next. Slayer perhaps or testament. 

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I think females are pretty rare in thrash but there's certainly more now than in 1980s.  Indeed only Holy Moses comes to mind as having a female member in 1980s/early 1990s. 

 

Out of modern era Nervosa is an all lady thrash band.  Nocturnal had a female vocalist for a several years and Cripper had a female vocalist before they split.

 

There might be more scattered around the place.

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On 2/14/2022 at 2:57 AM, Sheol said:

I'd say there's not many thrash fans at all right now. Death metal and black metal reigns supreme. Thrash had a huge upsurge in the 00's but it's largely been replaced by death and black.

I wouldn't say that. Bands like Municipal Waste and Toxic Holocaust have brought thrash to more modern fans. 

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4 hours ago, Megatokyo said:

I wouldn't say that. Bands like Municipal Waste and Toxic Holocaust have brought thrash to more modern fans. 

They're 00-bands for me. At least it feels like that's when they had their breakthrough. I might be misremembering.

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4 hours ago, Sheol said:

They're 00-bands for me. At least it feels like that's when they had their breakthrough. I might be misremembering.

They are 00 bands, MW started in 2001 and TH in 1999, but they do seem to have been a bit more productive with shows than many other bands in the last decade, maybe that keeps the fans they first broke with still interested. Although for me TH's 2019 Primal Future was not a a great album.

 

8 hours ago, RelentlessOblivion said:

That’s true to some extent, but I would argue they do it in the least interesting way possible. Vektor, Black Fast and Ritual Carnage stand out more to me for modern thrash

 Vektor are a 00 band too :) I went off them for some reason, not entirely sure why because I don't hate any of their albums. I remember hearing Ritual Carnage's debut The Highest Law when it came out, it got pretty good reviews but I never really followed them. I should change that and see what they have done since then. Think I might also check out Black Fast, don't think I've heard them.

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KK I loved that Toxic Holocaust album.

Sheol,

As for modern thrash there is plenty of it and the major thrash bands are still major draw cards and more so than DM or BM ones.

Don't think DM or BM reigns supreme (it did in early 00s).  Scene is lot more diverse these days.   And it also seens locked in stasis with not much evolution let alone revolution.

 

And modern thrash bands that achieved some popularity in addiiton to MW, Vektor and Toxic Holocaust inclide Evile, Warbringer, Bonded By Blood, Gama Bomb, Power Trip and Havok.  Many others such as Lich King have achieved lesser notoriety 

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I guess I really need to stop pretending to know what's going on in the larger overall modern metal world. Mainstream metal in particular has totally gotten away from me over this last decade or two and I can't honestly say that I know who or what is popular with the masses (or why) anymore these days. Not that I care.

That said, I think it might be human nature to assume that the kinds of music we like personally is more widely popular than it actually is. If you're into contemporary era (post 2000) thrash and/or the more major label mainstream metal of today then it's understandable that you're probably gonna feel like that stuff is king of the hill. But if you happen to be into something else then you're likely to have a somewhat different perpsective. I have personally been feeling for awhile now that at this point in metal's evolution, mainstream metal has really evolved to become a completely different and separate animal from the underground metal that I prefer. Apples and oranges if you will, related but different.

Also I think one's perception will inevitably depend quite a bit on what part of the world they're from. I do believe that in parts of northern and western Europe especially, like for instance Sweden where Johan is, death and black metal do clearly reign supreme at least as far as just within the metal world. Unlike here in the states and most of the native English speaking countries around the world where they don't reign at all, they're all but unknown.

To someone like me, watching certain people try to use the fact that mainstream metal sells better and is more widely known to support their theory that it must be somehow 'better' or that it 'reigns supreme' is not really any different than people who think shitty insufferable pop music must be the best music in the world because it sells so much more than rock or metal or jazz or anything else. Neither of these examples are even close to being head to head comparisons, so I don't think there is much of value to be concluded from them. Because of course mainstream metal by defintiion with it's overproduced sounds and lip-synched videos with pyro and makeup budgets is going to get more mainstream media attention and be more widely known and more widely purchased, listened to, and appreciated than the more obscure less promoted, less accessible 'underground' stuff. That all obviously goes without saying. 

So when Johan says black and death metal reign supreme, he means with actual metalheads in his country and around the world, not just with the mainstream masses who have always preferred more accessible and palatable sounds and always will. Not saying there's anything wrong with being a mainstreamer, just that it's mostly two different worlds that even though they're related and have some overlap, they really aren't on an even footing so it's basically pointless and unfair to compare them head to head and think you're drawing any meaningful conclusions. 

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There is no underground anymore.  And these days the sub mainstream (ie below Metallica or Korn or Iron Maiden) you get death, thrash, black, etc etc.  

 

The scene is really fragmented thpugh which makes being aware of stuff oitise of the sub mainstream difficult.

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