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how sincere are most black-metal "satanic" bands?


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I guess that depends on what you mean by a "True Satanist."  I think most of the supposedly "Satanic" bands just like the image of Satanism and the rebellion that it seems to represent in society. 

I cannot speak about Watain or Inquisition, as I do not listen to either of them, but I want to push back on the idea that Behemoth somehow represents something truly Satanic.  To me, they focus too much on their image and making money to be anything other than just another popular/successful band.  I find that a little difficult to reconcile with the anti-social/transgressive image of Satanism.  That being said, they do have some great music!

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From the interviews that I've heard with Eric from WATAIN and Dagon from INQUISITION, both bands embrace the ideology of "satanism" and it's a huge part of what they try to convey through their music.As for BEHEMOTH, they put out fucking awesome records, one after the other. NERGAL has had a lot of shit thrown at him for living in Poland. They might not be "true satanists", just anti-catholics". Good enough for me. If there's one band that used SATAN as an image to make money. it's SLAYER.  Tom arraya is a practicing catholic and didn't feel comfortable with some of Kerry kings lyrics as he got older. Only in america can you get rich pretending to worship SATAN.

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I'm not much into black metal. I know some bands and albums and saw live only Mayhem and Satyricon in the past.

There's only one band of this genre which I really adore from their beginnings: Rotting Christ. Whenever they come to Italy I go to their shows and I personally met and talked to Sakis twice (not about Satan ;-) . He is of course the band leader and mastermind, do you think he is true in his Satanism?  

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I really can;'t think of any bands which may truly be "satanists". The only one in any way associated with metal in this regard is "Twin Temple, and they are not metal, instead doing doo-wop. They just kind of get lumped in with metal because of the satanic angle. Otherwise, it is just an image thing, often growing out of when the artists were still young and looking towards the obvious and cliched, in efforts to shock (and sell records).

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They're about as serious as most NSBM bands, in that it's done entirely for image and to shock in 99% of cases. Tom Araya of Slayer sang about Satan for nearly 40 years and is a practicing Roman Catholic and there's nothing wrong with that in my eyes, he was an artist and made a specific type of art for which there was demand, that got him paid. God bless him, he lived the dream. Glen Benton of Deicide sends his children to a Catholic school and has an inverted cross branded on his forehead. Sometimes when you're a musician, you have to do wacky shit to stand out. That's the way it's been all the way back to the day of Screamin' Jay Hawkins and Alice Cooper after him.

And I don't care one bit. It comes with the territory of making this style of music. I am a person who is able to distinguish theatrics from reality, so I don't need my bands to be sincere about whatever the topics of their lyrics are. It's just rock n roll at the end of the day and I like listening to it.

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Most actual modern day Satanists in this country are just atheists who oppose theism and advocate for the separation of church and state. It's all about personal freedoms and respecting the rights of others. They don't believe in or worship any supernatural Satan entity. Here are the 7 tenets of Satanism from the Satanic Temple dot com:

 

THERE ARE SEVEN FUNDAMENTAL TENETS

I
One should strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with reason.
II
The struggle for justice is an ongoing and necessary pursuit that should prevail over laws and institutions.
III
One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone.
IV
The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo one's own.
V
Beliefs should conform to one's best scientific understanding of the world. One should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit one's beliefs.
VI
People are fallible. If one makes a mistake, one should do one's best to rectify it and resolve any harm that might have been caused.
VII
Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word.
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17 hours ago, GoatmasterGeneral said:

THERE ARE SEVEN FUNDAMENTAL TENETS

I
One should strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with reason.
II
The struggle for justice is an ongoing and necessary pursuit that should prevail over laws and institutions.
III
One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone.
IV
The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo one's own.
V
Beliefs should conform to one's best scientific understanding of the world. One should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit one's beliefs.
VI
People are fallible. If one makes a mistake, one should do one's best to rectify it and resolve any harm that might have been caused.
VII
Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word.

Better morale guidance than any organized religion at the moment.

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