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54 minutes ago, FatherAlabaster said:

I've done it before. It took me a couple weeks to start feeling level again, but good luck to you. Any particular reason you're doing this?

I have a really addictive personality and I'm trying to kick all my chemical habits. Already quit smoking, drinking, smoking, and meat eating. I suppose you could say I'm adopting straight edge ideals.

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I have a really addictive personality and I'm trying to kick all my chemical habits. Already quit smoking, drinking, smoking, and meat eating. I suppose you could say I'm adopting straight edge ideals.
Meat counts as a chemical habit?

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15 minutes ago, BlutAusNerd said:

Meat counts as a chemical habit?

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No but I included it because I did experience some withdrawal symptoms whether they were physical or psychosomatic. My reasoning for vegetarianism is of spiritual and ethical nature but I will not preach to you about that simply because I find it exhausting to both myself and the listener.

But nonetheless, I feel that anything has the potential to be overconsumed, those items listed are my go to fixes and therefore I have cut them out.

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No but I included it because I did experience some withdrawal symptoms whether they were physical or psychosomatic. My reasoning for vegetarianism is of spiritual and ethical nature but I will not preach to you about that simply because I find it exhausting to both myself and the listener.
But nonetheless, I feel that anything has the potential to be overconsumed, those items listed are my go to fixes and therefore I have cut them out.


I'm set in my ways on the subject, so an argument on the subject probably wouldn't serve anyone. I was just looking for some clarification, as it didn't seem like something that you could truly develop a dependency on, but any withdrawal symptoms would likely be from the nutritional change.

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4 minutes ago, BlutAusNerd said:


 

 


I'm set in my ways on the subject, so an argument on the subject probably wouldn't serve anyone. I was just looking for some clarification, as it didn't seem like something that you could truly develop a dependency on, but any withdrawal symptoms would likely be from the nutritional change.

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I feel that a lot of it was psychologically based. I feel like any change in habits is uncomfortable. Certainly not trying to start an argument, I'm cool with how anyone decides to eat.

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2 hours ago, deathstorm said:

Will you still eat seafood like shrimp  and lobster flounder and all that

For the most part no. Now if Im gonna have a cheat day I may indulge in a bowl of clam chowder (Like I said I'm originally from the Bay Area). But that would be on a very, very occasional basis.

For the most part my diet consists of vegetable proteins, fruits and vegetables, legumes and the like.

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For the most part no. Now if Im gonna have a cheat day I may indulge in a bowl of clam chowder (Like I said I'm originally from the Bay Area). But that would be on a very, very occasional basis.
For the most part my diet consists of vegetable proteins, fruits and vegetables, legumes and the like.
I would caution you on vegetable proteins, as they often come with undesirable side effects. The most obvious ones are soy and gluten, the former containing phyto-estrogen that causes your body to respond as though it were actual estrogen entering your system, and gluten being the most notoriously difficult protein for the body to digest, causing harmful allergies and auto-immune disorders in those that have too much. Others aren't quite as bad, but all are deficient in the plethora of amino and fatty acids and minerals that plant proteins provide.

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8 minutes ago, BlutAusNerd said:

I would caution you on vegetable proteins, as they often come with undesirable side effects. The most obvious ones are soy and gluten, the former containing phyto-estrogen that causes your body to respond as though it were actual estrogen entering your system, and gluten being the most notoriously difficult protein for the body to digest, causing harmful allergies and auto-immune disorders in those that have too much. Others aren't quite as bad, but all are deficient in the plethora of amino and fatty acids and minerals that plant proteins provide.

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Right which is why I diversify my protein intake. 

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Also if my posts seem to be lacking in coherency, I forgot my food at home so my blood sugar may be effecting my cognitive abilities. I haven't eaten anything today. Should be good after I get off work and eat after about 15 minutes.

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On 15/12/2017 at 12:56 PM, BlutAusNerd said:

I would caution you on vegetable proteins, as they often come with undesirable side effects. The most obvious ones are soy and gluten, the former containing phyto-estrogen that causes your body to respond as though it were actual estrogen entering your system, and gluten being the most notoriously difficult protein for the body to digest, causing harmful allergies and auto-immune disorders in those that have too much. Others aren't quite as bad, but all are deficient in the plethora of amino and fatty acids and minerals that plant proteins provide.

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You sound like this woman at work who "cautions" me about eating too much fruit because of its sugars.

This is what happens when people start talking diets - all the experts come out of the woodwork. I could see Ikard backing away from the very start but you went ahead and put your foot in the door as he tried to close it: "Let me tell you about proteins...!!!"

As for my diet, the less said the better. The other day I had M&Ms for breakfast and McDonalds for lunch. I told the fruit/sugars woman who was thrilled to bits. She thinks I'm a bad boy, and she's right. 

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You sound like this woman at work who "cautions" me about eating too much fruit because of its sugars.

This is what happens when people start talking diets - all the experts come out of the woodwork. I could see Ikard backing away from the very start but you went ahead and put your foot in the door as he tried to close it: "Let me tell you about proteins...!!!"

As for my diet, the less said the better. The other day I had M&Ms for breakfast and McDonalds for lunch. I told the fruit/sugars woman who was thrilled to bits. She thinks I'm a bad boy, and she's right. 

Guilty as charged. I can abide any lifestyle choice, but people have a right to know what they're getting into. I've had friends and relatives develop health problems from diets like that, one of which decided on a vegan diet when she was pregnant with her second child, and this child's growth and development has been stunted because of it.

 

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16 minutes ago, BlutAusNerd said:

Guilty as charged. I can abide any lifestyle choice, but people have a right to know what they're getting into. I've had friends and relatives develop health problems from diets like that, one of which decided on a vegan diet when she was pregnant with her second child, and this child's growth and development has been stunted because of it.

 

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It's alright dude, I'm welcome to a discussion. I'm welcome to disagreement. I took no offense and I understood the point of view. Veganism is an ethical choice for me but I grasp that not everyone agrees with it and that's alright. 

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It's alright dude, I'm welcome to a discussion. I'm welcome to disagreement. I took no offense and I understood the point of view. Veganism is an ethical choice for me but I grasp that not everyone agrees with it and that's alright. 
Glad to hear it. I don't imagine we're going to change each others minds, but there's no harm in exchanging information. People that don't have vegan diets can get celiac disease, ulcerative colitis, chrons, etc... from too much gluten intake, but vegans tend to rely more on foods with gluten since they have one less food group to choose from. It's a legitimate concern, and all of those are fucking miserable to suffer through, I wouldn't wish that on anyone.

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1 hour ago, BlutAusNerd said:

Glad to hear it. I don't imagine we're going to change each others minds, but there's no harm in exchanging information. People that don't have vegan diets can get celiac disease, ulcerative colitis, chrons, etc... from too much gluten intake, but vegans tend to rely more on foods with gluten since they have one less food group to choose from. It's a legitimate concern, and all of those are fucking miserable to suffer through, I wouldn't wish that on anyone.

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I try to avoid gluten based protein for that reason. I do eat a lot of soy, but I mix it up between various other plant based proteins such as chickpeas for example or various nut butters. Too much of anything is a negative in terms of nutrition.

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6 hours ago, RelentlessOblivion said:

I'll admit my diet isn't great. I could stand to work more veggiees and fruit in there. I'm working on that.

Do you like Falafel? It's not the best for you if you deep fry it but lately I've been baking it so it's a little better and I use it as a replacement for meatballs and stuff.

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I hope you have success in the path you have chosen. :) 

I´ve had my struggles with diet changes, dropping caffeine and nicotine and such. I have since determined, that my happiness surely doesn´t come through suffering, thats the path most people try to take to achieve something better. Currently i eat pretty much anything, but reasonable amounts and with enough variety. I am much happier (and feel better too) than i did ie. when trying gluten free or vegatarian diets (not to mention everything from visiting the store to cooking was an intolerable chore). It´s surely a worthy cause to try to drop the things you grow addiction to, and i still wish to drop nicotine.. It´s just tough, really tough. We are all unique (far less so than many wish to believe though) and different things work for different people, some people seem to love the effort it takes to follow a strict diet. :D 

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2 hours ago, ChainsawAkimbo said:

I hope you have success in the path you have chosen. :) 

I´ve had my struggles with diet changes, dropping caffeine and nicotine and such. I have since determined, that my happiness surely doesn´t come through suffering, thats the path most people try to take to achieve something better. Currently i eat pretty much anything, but reasonable amounts and with enough variety. I am much happier (and feel better too) than i did ie. when trying gluten free or vegatarian diets (not to mention everything from visiting the store to cooking was an intolerable chore). It´s surely a worthy cause to try to drop the things you grow addiction to, and i still wish to drop nicotine.. It´s just tough, really tough. We are all unique (far less so than many wish to believe though) and different things work for different people, some people seem to love the effort it takes to follow a strict diet. :D 

See I don't find veganism all that restrictive. The flavors i enjoy go with vegetable based foods very well. As for the caffeine. I've decided to take a slower approach. Drinking green tea no energy drinks or coffee.

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