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Filosofem Vs. Hvis Lyset Tar Oss

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After listening to both albums, I am having difficulty deciding which I think is better.  Both have excellent songs and guitar work, and express the atmosphere of Burzum extremely.  Personally, however, I think that the vocals are delivered better on Filosofem.  Filosofem also has more songs, but the 25 minute synth track is not as good as Tomhet.  What do you all think?

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This thread is a good shout.  Difficult one to call certainly but I think "Filosofem" edges it, certainly in terms of regular plays.  I was blown away up on hearing it for the first time and it stayed with me for days.  "Hvis..." is less immediate with me and that's not to say I find "Filosofem" accessible by any means but it just clicked first time.

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On ‎10‎/‎3‎/‎2017 at 2:11 PM, FatherAlabaster said:

I used to only like Aske, but I've warmed up to the other pre-prison stuff in the past few years. Filosofem is the one I play the most, by a wide margin. Perfect painting album.

Cool, I usually paint while listening to is also.

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For me it's Filosofem. Dunkelheit alone is reason enough if you ask me,  and I love Beholding the daughters of the firmament. 

Varg is/was (I don't like his newer stuff, it's just wierd) a musical mastermind, just too bad the guy's an idiot otherwise. 

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9 hours ago, MacabreEternal said:

This thread is a good shout.  Difficult one to call certainly but I think "Filosofem" edges it, certainly in terms of regular plays.  I was blown away up on hearing it for the first time and it stayed with me for days.  "Hvis..." is less immediate with me and that's not to say I find "Filosofem" accessible by any means but it just clicked first time.

Both albums contain all time classic opening tracks; both contain fairly boring ambient material; both have killer Kittelsen artwork. 

But I think I agree with Macca here. ‘Filosofem’ has those great three upfront tracks and it just edges in front. Although I do prefer the vocals in ‘Hvis..’ due to the added effects in ‘Filosofem’ which I don’t think enhance the sound. 

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4 hours ago, Requiem said:

Both albums contain all time classic opening tracks; both contain fairly boring ambient material; both have killer Kittelsen artwork. 

But I think I agree with Macca here. ‘Filosofem’ has those great three upfront tracks and it just edges in front. Although I do prefer the vocals in ‘Hvis..’ due to the added effects in ‘Filosofem’ which I don’t think enhance the sound. 

I love those ambient tracks, always have!

I would also side with Filosofem. 

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10 hours ago, Requiem said:

Both albums contain all time classic opening tracks; both contain fairly boring ambient material; both have killer Kittelsen artwork. 

But I think I agree with Macca here. ‘Filosofem’ has those great three upfront tracks and it just edges in front. Although I do prefer the vocals in ‘Hvis..’ due to the added effects in ‘Filosofem’ which I don’t think enhance the sound. 

Why do you prefer the vocals in Hvis Lyset Tar Oss?  They are growing on me the more I listen to the album, but I still don't think that they measure up to Filosofem.

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20 hours ago, vinnidark said:

For me it's Filosofem. Dunkelheit alone is reason enough if you ask me,  and I love Beholding the daughters of the firmament. 

Varg is/was (I don't like his newer stuff, it's just wierd) a musical mastermind, just too bad the guy's an idiot otherwise. 

Beholding the Daughters of the Firmament is a really good song.  His new stuff is certainly very different, though I would not label it as bad.

Didn't Varg originally intend to have Dunkelheit on Hvis Lyset Tar Oss? 

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6 hours ago, Balor said:

Why do you prefer the vocals in Hvis Lyset Tar Oss?  They are growing on me the more I listen to the album, but I still don't think that they measure up to Filosofem.

‘Filosofem’ has an effect on the vocals which the first three releases don’t have. There’s artificial distortion placed on Varg’s voice by he and Pytten in the studio, and I’ve always found it redundant because Varg has one of the greatest screams in black metal. Layering it with extra effects is gilding the lily. 

I definitely prefer the more organic sound of his voice on ‘Burzum’, ‘Aske’, and ‘Det Som Engang Var’. I just happen to think that ‘Dunkleheit’, ‘Jesu Tod’ and ‘Beholding the Daughters of the Firmament’ are strong enough tracks to make ‘Filosofem’ the superior album.

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