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On 05/09/2017 at 2:05 AM, BlutAusNerd said:

Martyre is definitely a Gothic metal album, it doesn't have much to do with doom at all. 

And six months later we still wait for your top 10!  

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And six months later we still wait for your top 10!  
You caught me, lol.

Moonspell - Wolfheart
Type O Negative - World Coming Down
Virgin Black - Elegant... and Dying
Draconian - Arcane Rain Fell
Cradle of Filth - Cruelty and the Beast
Septic Flesh - Ophidian Wheel
Tristania - Beyond the Veil
Celtic Frost - Into the Pandemonium
Paradise Lost - Icon
Funeral - From These Wounds

That's just off the top of my head. I may have missed something, but this should be mostly representative of how I like gothic metal to sound.

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11 minutes ago, BlutAusNerd said:

You caught me, lol.

Moonspell - Wolfheart
Type O Negative - World Coming Down
Virgin Black - Elegant... and Dying
Draconian - Arcane Rain Fell
Cradle of Filth - Cruelty and the Beast
Septic Flesh - Ophidian Wheel
Tristania - Beyond the Veil
Celtic Frost - Into the Pandemonium
Paradise Lost - Icon
Funeral - From These Wounds

That's just off the top of my head. I may have missed something, but this should be mostly representative of how I like gothic metal to sound.

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World coming down is a great album by type o negative everyone  dies is my favorite song 

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11 hours ago, BlutAusNerd said:

You caught me, lol.

Moonspell - Wolfheart
Type O Negative - World Coming Down
Virgin Black - Elegant... and Dying
Draconian - Arcane Rain Fell
Cradle of Filth - Cruelty and the Beast
Septic Flesh - Ophidian Wheel
Tristania - Beyond the Veil
Celtic Frost - Into the Pandemonium
Paradise Lost - Icon
Funeral - From These Wounds

That's just off the top of my head. I may have missed something, but this should be mostly representative of how I like gothic metal to sound.

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Great list. I love all these albums. ‘From these Wounds’ is a masterpiece. I’m so glad you finally shared the list! 

I’ve had the pleasure of seeing Virgin Black many times and I’ve met them all. One of my associates/friends went out with Samantha at one point. She’s an amazing person. Cracking band.

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Great list. I love all these albums. ‘From these Wounds’ is a masterpiece. I’m so glad you finally shared the list! 
I’ve had the pleasure of seeing Virgin Black many times and I’ve met them all. One of my associates/friends went out with Samantha at one point. She’s an amazing person. Cracking band.
Thanks, I wasn't sure if you would view the list so highly since it favors Gothic fusions over straight up Gothic metal albums. When it's done right, it can be incredibly emotional and effective. It can also be really lackluster and somewhat whiny for me, it really depends on the album.

Virgin Black is fantastic. I remember you saying that you knew them, and I will not hide my envy because I love everything they've done. The honor could just as easily have gone to Sombre Romantic or Requiem - Mezzo Forte. They also have the distinction of maybe being the only band to release an excellent doom/death album (Requiem - Fortissimo is a beast) that I don't like quite as much as their Gothic metal material.

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2 hours ago, BlutAusNerd said:

Thanks, I wasn't sure if you would view the list so highly since it favors Gothic fusions over straight up Gothic metal albums. When it's done right, it can be incredibly emotional and effective. It can also be really lackluster and somewhat whiny for me, it really depends on the album.

Virgin Black is fantastic. I remember you saying that you knew them, and I will not hide my envy because I love everything they've done. The honor could just as easily have gone to Sombre Romantic or Requiem - Mezzo Forte. They also have the distinction of maybe being the only band to release an excellent doom/death album (Requiem - Fortissimo is a beast) that I don't like quite as much as their Gothic metal material.

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I just have ‘Sombre’ and ‘Elegant’ and for some reason didn’t pursue them after that. I should give them some more spins as it’s been years since I heard them. 

Friends joke about how bands should never be so ambitious as to start a trilogy because you never know what the future holds. Case in point Virgin Black. 

The singer Rowan was always an extreme and distant guy. He really wasn’t into chatting. Actually they were all pretty unique people. Samantha Escarbe was definitely the most approachable. 

She was there the night I met Duncan Patterson when he came over to my friend’s flat. I spoke to Duncan and drank cider with him for hours, hearing all the Anathema stories. Those were the days. 

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I just have ‘Sombre’ and ‘Elegant’ and for some reason didn’t pursue them after that. I should give them some more spins as it’s been years since I heard them. 
Friends joke about how bands should never be so ambitious as to start a trilogy because you never know what the future holds. Case in point Virgin Black. 
The singer Rowan was always an extreme and distant guy. He really wasn’t into chatting. Actually they were all pretty unique people. Samantha Escarbe was definitely the most approachable. 
She was there the night I met Duncan Patterson when he came over to my friend’s flat. I spoke to Duncan and drank cider with him for hours, hearing all the Anathema stories. Those were the days. 
Sounds like a good time, even if Rowan kept to himself. You should give their other albums a listen when you get the chance, they're very much worth your time.

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On 3/5/2018 at 7:09 AM, BlutAusNerd said:

Sounds like a good time, even if Rowan kept to himself. You should give their other albums a listen when you get the chance, they're very much worth your time.


 

I've really only heard bits and pieces in party/social environments, so really not a great context to hear what are obviously pretty thoughtful and special albums. 

I just posted that I was listening to The Foreshadowing - 'Days of Nothing' which I really keep forgetting about, which is tragic because it's such a great album. Are you into it at all? (I speak exclusively of 'it' because their follow up albums are really disappointing with the exception of their amazing cover of Sting's 'Russians'.)

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I've really only heard bits and pieces in party/social environments, so really not a great context to hear what are obviously pretty thoughtful and special albums. 
I just posted that I was listening to The Foreshadowing - 'Days of Nothing' which I really keep forgetting about, which is tragic because it's such a great album. Are you into it at all? (I speak exclusively of 'it' because their follow up albums are really disappointing with the exception of their amazing cover of Sting's 'Russians'.)
I've never heard them. Similar to Virgin Black?

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On 10/03/2018 at 2:22 AM, BlutAusNerd said:

I've never heard them. Similar to Virgin Black?

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No, not really. The Foreshadowing are more like - I’m struggling to find an apt description. They’re at the more upbeat end of Virgin Black, like ‘The Kiss of Gods Mouth Part 2’. No, that’s not it at all. It’s gloomy downbeat rock based music with a doom vibe and clean male voice with a huge helping of bleakness and emptiness that never gets out of second gear speedwise. Just deliciously miserable and beautiful.

 

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No, not really. The Foreshadowing are more like - I’m struggling to find an apt description. They’re at the more upbeat end of Virgin Black, like ‘The Kiss of Gods Mouth Part 2’. No, that’s not it at all. It’s gloomy downbeat rock based music with a doom vibe and clean male voice with a huge helping of bleakness and emptiness that never gets out of second gear speedwise. Just deliciously miserable and beautiful.
 
Interesting description, sounds like it would be worth checking out.

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5 hours ago, BlutAusNerd said:

Interesting description, sounds like it would be worth checking out.

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Bear in mind it’s only their first album ‘Days of Nothing’ that has this next level songwriting. For some reason their subsequent albums are quite bland, if not actually boring. Strange really.

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I just found this thread by pure luck and I'm so glad I did! You all have shared amazing lists (Saturnus rules), I'm even discovering Virgin Black thanks to this thread.

It's nice to see a good discussion on Gothic Metal, something that's been lacking in recent years.

Anyway, I just wanted to share my list. I'll follow the rule of one album per band.

 

10. Tiamat - Prey

I was about to put Wildhoney but that album sounds kinda more "avant garde" to me, so I just went for the safe bet.

Prey is my second favourite album by Tiamat. It's melancholic and powerful from beginning to end.


9. Theatres des Vampires - Bloody Lunatic Asylum

Very dark and interesting. This and Suicide Vampire are probably the best of old TdV.


8. Cradle of Filth - Hammer of the Witches

CoF at their best. It's been years since I really enjoyed something made by them, and this album is truly remarkable.


7. Darkwell - Suspiria

A haunting masterpiece by this fantastic Austrian band. It will leave an impression!


6. My Dying Bride - A Map of All Our Failures

I wasn't sure which MDB album to include, so I choose this beautiful piece of work. It gets very gloomy, and its execution is flawless.


5. Theatre of Tragedy - Velvet Darkness They Fear

A solid entry in the Gothic Metal scene. Out of all Theatre of Tragedy albums this is probably the one I listened to the most. Just delightful.


4. Moonspell - Wolfheart

Amazing, unforgettable. Irreligious was considered to be here too, but in the end I favoured Wolfheart for its aggressive darkness.


3. Rotting Christ - A Dead Poem

This is among my favourite albums ever. It shows how versatile and creative Rotting Christ are. After this they went for an (amazing) blend of Black/Folk/Symphonic Metal, but their late '90s works left a deep impression in me.


2. Paradise Lost - Draconian Times

A timeless classic. I enjoyed this one a lot more than Icon and Shades of God.


1. Tristania - Widow's Weeds

One of the best albums of all time, hands down. The line-up at this time was perfect, too.

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On 9/11/2018 at 2:29 PM, Skadi said:

I just found this thread by pure luck and I'm so glad I did! You all have shared amazing lists (Saturnus rules), I'm even discovering Virgin Black thanks to this thread.

It's nice to see a good discussion on Gothic Metal, something that's been lacking in recent years.

Anyway, I just wanted to share my list. I'll follow the rule of one album per band.

 

10. Tiamat - Prey

I was about to put Wildhoney but that album sounds kinda more "avant garde" to me, so I just went for the safe bet.

Prey is my second favourite album by Tiamat. It's melancholic and powerful from beginning to end.


9. Theatres des Vampires - Bloody Lunatic Asylum

Very dark and interesting. This and Suicide Vampire are probably the best of old TdV.


8. Cradle of Filth - Hammer of the Witches

CoF at their best. It's been years since I really enjoyed something made by them, and this album is truly remarkable.


7. Darkwell - Suspiria

A haunting masterpiece by this fantastic Austrian band. It will leave an impression!


6. My Dying Bride - A Map of All Our Failures

I wasn't sure which MDB album to include, so I choose this beautiful piece of work. It gets very gloomy, and its execution is flawless.


5. Theatre of Tragedy - Velvet Darkness They Fear

A solid entry in the Gothic Metal scene. Out of all Theatre of Tragedy albums this is probably the one I listened to the most. Just delightful.


4. Moonspell - Wolfheart

Amazing, unforgettable. Irreligious was considered to be here too, but in the end I favoured Wolfheart for its aggressive darkness.


3. Rotting Christ - A Dead Poem

This is among my favourite albums ever. It shows how versatile and creative Rotting Christ are. After this they went for an (amazing) blend of Black/Folk/Symphonic Metal, but their late '90s works left a deep impression in me.


2. Paradise Lost - Draconian Times

A timeless classic. I enjoyed this one a lot more than Icon and Shades of God.


1. Tristania - Widow's Weeds

One of the best albums of all time, hands down. The line-up at this time was perfect, too.

Skadi, you're an absolute star! 

This is a brilliant list, and you've mentioned several albums that I really love. 'A Dead Poem', 'Wolfheart', 'Velvet Darkness' and 'Hammer of the Witches' are brilliant albums from bands in my list too (except for Rotting Christ, who easily could have made it to my list). My favourite album from Tiamat would be 'Judas Christ'. 

It's great to see someone with such fantastic taste. Bravo Skadi! 

 

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It's interesting that "October Rust" (Type O Negative) and "Spiritual Black Dimensions" (Dimmu Borgir) are "eternal" albums that I will keep in my list ... fuck the genres and the special interests discussion. What I tend to do when confronted by a new genre like this is ask what represented them in the 70s (or even the 60s). If they have nothing they don't really exist. However, it's a fact that I own records by Theatre des Vampires and things like that ... such as Death Squad SS (highly rercommended!) ... which qualifies in this genre, according to its parameters. So I respect the desire to have your own country or whatever ... it's just not economically feasible at this point in time.

In MY opinion (which counts a lot to me!), the basic premise of "gothic metal" is a fail. The emotional indulgence of "being gothic" is anathema to the spirit of creativity. It all boils down to a wankard the tankard blow it all up kind of party ... but the issue is real enough. So what's a "Gothic" album from the classical age like? I'd search for Savannah Breeze and that sort of thing ... but the real issue is that there just weren't enough tear soaked fucking children back in the day. You had to support yourself. Make a living, That sort of thing. (This may be different today. I wouldn't know. I stopped caring in the 90s.)

Like I'm sure many will do ... I suggest Arthur Brown as a starting point here. This will put "gohic metal" at an age which is close to that of metal itself, in terms of when the genre came to be.  

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On 9/29/2018 at 7:37 AM, MaxFaust said:

It's interesting that "October Rust" (Type O Negative) and "Spiritual Black Dimensions" (Dimmu Borgir) are "eternal" albums that I will keep in my list ... fuck the genres and the special interests discussion. What I tend to do when confronted by a new genre like this is ask what represented them in the 70s (or even the 60s). If they have nothing they don't really exist. However, it's a fact that I own records by Theatre des Vampires and things like that ... such as Death Squad SS (highly rercommended!) ... which qualifies in this genre, according to its parameters. So I respect the desire to have your own country or whatever ... it's just not economically feasible at this point in time.

In MY opinion (which counts a lot to me!), the basic premise of "gothic metal" is a fail. The emotional indulgence of "being gothic" is anathema to the spirit of creativity. It all boils down to a wankard the tankard blow it all up kind of party ... but the issue is real enough. So what's a "Gothic" album from the classical age like? I'd search for Savannah Breeze and that sort of thing ... but the real issue is that there just weren't enough tear soaked fucking children back in the day. You had to support yourself. Make a living, That sort of thing. (This may be different today. I wouldn't know. I stopped caring in the 90s.)

Like I'm sure many will do ... I suggest Arthur Brown as a starting point here. This will put "gohic metal" at an age which is close to that of metal itself, in terms of when the genre came to be.  

Goth and/or gothic, a forever-hot topic! 

 

On 9/10/2018 at 9:29 PM, Skadi said:

I just found this thread by pure luck and I'm so glad I did! You all have shared amazing lists (Saturnus rules), I'm even discovering Virgin Black thanks to this thread.

It's nice to see a good discussion on Gothic Metal, something that's been lacking in recent years.

Anyway, I just wanted to share my list. I'll follow the rule of one album per band.

 

10. Tiamat - Prey

I was about to put Wildhoney but that album sounds kinda more "avant garde" to me, so I just went for the safe bet.

Prey is my second favourite album by Tiamat. It's melancholic and powerful from beginning to end.


9. Theatres des Vampires - Bloody Lunatic Asylum

Very dark and interesting. This and Suicide Vampire are probably the best of old TdV.


8. Cradle of Filth - Hammer of the Witches

CoF at their best. It's been years since I really enjoyed something made by them, and this album is truly remarkable.


7. Darkwell - Suspiria

A haunting masterpiece by this fantastic Austrian band. It will leave an impression!


6. My Dying Bride - A Map of All Our Failures

I wasn't sure which MDB album to include, so I choose this beautiful piece of work. It gets very gloomy, and its execution is flawless.


5. Theatre of Tragedy - Velvet Darkness They Fear

A solid entry in the Gothic Metal scene. Out of all Theatre of Tragedy albums this is probably the one I listened to the most. Just delightful.


4. Moonspell - Wolfheart

Amazing, unforgettable. Irreligious was considered to be here too, but in the end I favoured Wolfheart for its aggressive darkness.


3. Rotting Christ - A Dead Poem

This is among my favourite albums ever. It shows how versatile and creative Rotting Christ are. After this they went for an (amazing) blend of Black/Folk/Symphonic Metal, but their late '90s works left a deep impression in me.


2. Paradise Lost - Draconian Times

A timeless classic. I enjoyed this one a lot more than Icon and Shades of God.


1. Tristania - Widow's Weeds

One of the best albums of all time, hands down. The line-up at this time was perfect, too.

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