Norway vs Sweden who has the better metal scene

[extrememetal1999]

since norway and sweden have large amounts of metal bands i want to see which country people think is better in the metal department

[shikawkee]

Well of course us Norwegians believe we do but I have grown to dig some Swedish bands. Some .

[BlutAusNerd]

Tough to compare, both have had ups and downs, different strengths and weaknesses. I own albums from more Swedish and Norwegian bands than bands from any country other that the USA, both have spawned some of my favorite music, and both have their share of overrated crap that people seem to gobble up anyway.

[metalman45]

As a Swede I think Norway's superior but then again Norway's usually superior in most departments.

[Os Abysmi Vel Daath]

That's so incredibly difficult to compare. Norway has Burzum and Emperor. Sweden has Entombed and At the Gates. Norway has Gorgoroth and Darkthrone. Sweden has Dissection and Dismember. As BAN said some awesome music and some horrible music have come from both.

[FatherAlabaster]

That's so incredibly difficult to compare. Norway has Burzum and Emperor. Sweden has Entombed and At the Gates. Norway has Gorgoroth and Darkthrone. Sweden has Dissection and Dismember. As BAN said some awesome music and some horrible music have come from both.

When you put it that way, Norway wins hands down.

[Os Abysmi Vel Daath]

When you put it that way' date=' Norway wins hands down. [/quote'] Well, it's all subjective. Dissection is amazing so that's a lot of points for Sweden. But Emperor kind of blows everything else away for me so on a personal basis Norway wins. But really both countries have some amazing bands.

[deathstorm]

I think it's a draw for both countries Sweden has good and bad and so does. Norway. Same thing

[FatherAlabaster]

Well' date=' it's all subjective... ...really both countries have some amazing bands.[/quote'] NO! Only ONE country must WIN, and the other must LOSE! You will PICK NOW!

[deathstorm]

Sweden wins

[shikawkee]

Sweden wins

Oh no you don't!!' Hehe... Norway first! Alt for Norge!!

[mindy6158]

Obviously Sweden since the best band of all time comes from there. duuuhhhhhhh......=D

[RPA]

haha, this subforum is fun in very abstract way. In this competition Sweden wins doubtlessly. Entombed, even companionless, crushes the whole Norway scene. Sorry. Grave, Nihilist, Dismember, Unleashed, all they pace after Entombed through the smoldering ruins.

[FatherAlabaster]

WRONG, the correct answer is clearly FINLAND.

[shikawkee]

WRONG' date=' the correct answer is clearly FINLAND.[/quote'] Ha! But they aren't classified as Scandinavia so screw them . Seriously though they have some cool stuff despite a much smaller scene there.

[deathstorm]

No you guys are both. Wrong it's Iceland lol

[BlutAusNerd]

Ha! But they aren't classified as Scandinavia so screw them . Seriously though they have some cool stuff despite a much smaller scene there.

What would they be classified as then, Russian?

[FatherAlabaster]

What would they be classified as then' date=' Russian?[/quote'] Thin, dark, and smelly, therefore not of interest to their burly blond neighbors.

[BlutAusNerd]

haha' date=' this subforum is fun in very abstract way. In this competition Sweden wins doubtlessly. Entombed, even companionless, crushes the whole Norway scene. Sorry. Grave, Nihilist, Dismember, Unleashed, all they pace after Entombed through the smoldering ruins.[/quote'] Entombed isn't even close to being the best Swedish death metal band, though their precursor Nihilist may have been the most influential. If you're just looking at death metal, then yes, you're probably correct, but Norway still produced some killer death metal before all of the musicians jumped ship to black metal, like Darkthrone's debut, Old Funeral, Molested, Cadaver, Thou Shalt Suffer, etc... In terms of black metal though, despite the Norwegian scene being a bit overrated, there's no contest as to whose black metal was superior. As I said in my post, they both have ups and down, different strengths and weaknesses.

[RPA]

What would they be classified as then' date=' Russian?[/quote']Finns assign it to group of "Baltic countries". They don't want be Scandinavians because of old wounds. I won't argue, I just love Entombed. Fuck everything else. Oh, I forgot about Meshuggah. You can like them or not, but you must agree, that they are innovative. I perceive djent as a real revolution in technical metal.

[BlutAusNerd]

Finns assign it to group of "Baltic countries". They don't want be Scandinavians because of old wounds. I won't argue, I just love Entombed. Fuck everything else. Oh, I forgot about Meshuggah. You can like them or not, but you must agree, that they are innovative. I perceive djent as a real revolution in technical metal.

Djent isn't even a real thing. They are innovators, but making a separate genre for them seems excessive, especially with such a stupid name. I read an argument that if djent is a legitimate genre, then doom metal should just be called "Dun". As far as Entombed goes, don't get me wrong, I like the band, but they are far from the be all end all of Swedish death metal. Dismember were far better for the early sound, but I tend to prefer the more creative and imaginative bands of the scene, like Gorement, Utumno, Uncanny, early At the Gates, Pan.Thy.Monium, Edge of Sanity, Furbowl, or the more brutal sounding bands like Seance and Crematory.

[FatherAlabaster]

Djent isn't even a real thing. They are innovators' date=' but making a separate genre for them seems excessive, especially with such a stupid name. I read an argument that if djent is a legitimate genre, then doom metal should just be called "Dun".[/quote'] I disagree, I think it should be called Braaaaaooownngg.

[RPA]

I disagree' date=' I think it should be called Braaaaaooownngg.[/quote'] BraaaaaaaaaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooownnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG - so this is drone. Why djent isn't a real thing? Sound is characteristic, so I call it new genre with all certainty.And its getting bigger and stronger day by day.

- it's maybe not djenty as Tesseract or so, but how to call it different way? It's definitely not one of existing heavy music genres. Metalcore maybe, but there's not even a single note referring to hardcore.

[BlutAusNerd]

BraaaaaaaaaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooownnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG - so this is drone. Why djent isn't a real thing? Sound is characteristic, so I call it new genre with all certainty.And its getting bigger and stronger day by day.

- it's maybe not djenty as Tesseract or so, but how to call it different way? It's definitely not one of existing heavy music genres. Metalcore maybe, but there's not even a single note referring to hardcore.

Pretty much every Meshuggah worship band is just metalcore with needless off time passages and downtuning. I don't really see a reason to call it something else, it's technical groove metal, which is what people have been calling Meshuggah since long before this "djent" term came along.

[RPA]

Needless? Off time? Sorry, but this is bullshit. No one before used intensive and heavy downtuning this way in the large-scale. There's a big difference between playing in B and F#, despite it seems to be "nearly the same". What hardcore influences can you see in called "djent" bands?