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First off let me say the question ("what does Lars Ulrich play?") the Skin Flute is not a valid option. I may have found the wrong forum, but I know nothing of Megadeth nor do I give a crap about them. Sorry don't mean to offend anybody here. I listen to black metal, and found these forums from a google search on one of my favorite artists: Samael. Anyways, I hope I'm not the only fan of BM here. If I am I'm obviously in the wrong place. Anyways, hello people. Hope I can learn of some good bands from some of you, and, who knows, maybe you can learn of a few from me.

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Welcome to the forums! How long have you been into black metal now? Do you prefer any specific BM Subgenre? Any specific country that you really like? i.e. french BM, norwegian BM... Some bands I like are Vinterland, Taake, Alcest, & Forteresse That's all I got off the top of my head. I'm more of a death/prog fan m'self.

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I was never a big black metal fan but now there are a couple I like thanks to this forum. Extol in particular.
I have a hard time calling Extol black metal. There are a few shades of that in their sound, but they've always felt more like melodeath to me, and a progressive and technical side of it. I love Undeceived, really great album. Sent from my HTC PH39100 using Tapatalk 2
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I have a hard time calling Extol black metal. There are a few shades of that in their sound' date=' but they've always felt more like melodeath to me, and a progressive and technical side of it. I love Undeceived, really great album.[/quote'] Undeceived was the album you introduced me to which is why I considered them black metal for the purposes of the post. Otherwise I definitely agree, I'd call them more progressive death metal on essentially everything else they ever did. It also got me into the wider world of unblack so in a sense you got me to check out Evroklidon, Blood Covenant, Holy Blood, Pantokrator, Crimson Moonlight, Drottnar and Renascent as well.
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I don't like the term "unblack" it's not accurate as the music is not distinguished by lyrical content but rather the techniques employed by its practitioners. Those are black metal bands whose lyrics are inspired by christianity just as Melechesh are inspired by Eastern Mysticism or Absu by Celtic folklore, or Bathory by Satan and then Norse mythology

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I don't like the term "unblack" it's not accurate as the music is not distinguished by lyrical content but rather the techniques employed by its practitioners. Those are black metal bands whose lyrics are inspired by christianity just as Melechesh are inspired by Eastern Mysticism or Absu by Celtic folklore' date=' or Bathory by Satan and then Norse mythology[/quote'] Unblack as compared to 'regular' black metal is lyrically different but otherwise the same, which is why I still use the term. It's not the cleverest way of delineating Christian black metal from the best, but it's pithy, and one hell of a lot better than 'white metal'. Usually I don't like the inversion crap people try to pull on Christian metal bands but unblack is succinct and it was used by one of the bands anyway so I'm content to keep using it.
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I have to admit I got off the black metal bandwagon a few years ago.
Honestly, it's the "tr00 kvlt" fans that put me off of the black metal scene. Their attitudes on forums, chat groups, and at gigs just really kill it for me. I still listen to a handful of bands I really love, but the scene isn't really one I want to associate with, which puts a damper on things, and makes it more challenging to come upon new/different bands since the majority of what i listen to is from trading recommendations with friends. Of all the metal fans I've known, it's the hardcore BM enthusiasts that seem to do the most snobbery, put downs, genre arguments, and shunning of all other forms of metal and music... closed minded. A sweeping generalization sure, and I am not dumb enough to assume this applies to all fans of black metal so don't get your boxers in a bunch. :P
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Of all the metal fans I've known' date=' it's the hardcore BM enthusiasts that seem to do the most snobbery, put downs, genre arguments, and shunning of all other forms of metal and music... closed minded.[/quote'] Oddly, the music they listen to is actually really crap most of the time. It seems they will straight-facedly say that Seventh Wonder is 'sentimental faggot crap' whereas the new album by Ænus Ov Ye Göatlörd , the underground Norwegian group consisting of one obese pedophile and a gibbon is 'totally fvcking kvlt' because it was independently recorded inside a mine shaft on an iPhone and was played on one guitar which only had one string and an amplifier powered by a potato battery. They will actually judge music solely by its lyrics too, which is hilarious because the only other people who do that are straight-laced evangelicals.
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Honestly, it's the "tr00 kvlt" fans that put me off of the black metal scene. Their attitudes on forums, chat groups, and at gigs just really kill it for me. I still listen to a handful of bands I really love, but the scene isn't really one I want to associate with, which puts a damper on things, and makes it more challenging to come upon new/different bands since the majority of what i listen to is from trading recommendations with friends. Of all the metal fans I've known, it's the hardcore BM enthusiasts that seem to do the most snobbery, put downs, genre arguments, and shunning of all other forms of metal and music... closed minded. A sweeping generalization sure, and I am not dumb enough to assume this applies to all fans of black metal so don't get your boxers in a bunch. :P
This is true, which is why I don't associate with many black metallers. I have been lucky to come across many open-minded fans on forums, but often IRL they are as you describe. Black metal tends to be my most listened to genre of music, but I also tend not to follow the trends that most others do with it. I prefer first wave/early second wave bands from non-Scandinavian areas, and don't indulge in near as much Darkthrone, Drudkh, and Emperor worship as most other fans, I prefer my black metal to be black METAL, with a focus on riffs. I do like all sorts though, and I don't shun bands just for experimenting or doing something outside the imaginary lines imposed by short sighted pricks. Sent from my HTC PH39100 using Tapatalk 2
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