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I suppose you're right' date=' in a literal sense. My point is that there's no real debate because it's a non-issue. Plenty of people don't like growling or blastbeats, so they listen to music that doesn't have them. It's like watching one WNBA game and then claiming that women are "ruining sports".[/quote'] Yeah. I agree it doesn't really add anything to this thread.
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I think to say an entire genre of music is ruined by something you have the choice not to listen to or even bother with is a bit of a stretch. I don't like reality tv but it hasn't ruined all of television. I am aware it is there still but I choose not to watch it. I have peeling paint on one wall in my bathroom which I find annoying and ugly but it hasn't ruined all walls in my flat now because I expect them to go the same way.

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I think to say an entire genre of music is ruined by something you have the choice not to listen to or even bother with is a bit of a stretch. I don't like reality tv but it hasn't ruined all of television. I am aware it is there still but I choose not to watch it. I have peeling paint on one wall in my bathroom which I find annoying and ugly but it hasn't ruined all walls in my flat now because I expect them to go the same way.
Your bathroom is garbage and is ruining housing.
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I don't think it's completely idiotic to say that djent is 'ruining' progressive metal, because it is becoming popular and making it less likely for labels to pick up groups doing something different. I've heard loads of complaints, on this forum, about excessively 'slick' sound production, I don't think it'd be complete nonsense for someone to argue that it is to a certain extent ruining death metal. It doesn't ruin any of the bands that are actually good, and doesn't necessarily damage the genre as a whole, but I don't quite think that's what people mean. I think they mean it's just becoming less and less of a varied field and that it's starting to stagnate.

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I don't think it's completely idiotic to say that djent is 'ruining' progressive metal' date=' because it is becoming popular and making it less likely for labels to pick up groups doing something different. I hear loads of complaints about excessively furnished sound production, I don't think it'd be complete nonsense to argue that it is to a certain extent ruining death metal. It doesn't ruin any of the bands that are actually good, and doesn't necessarily damage the genre as a whole, but I don't quite think that's what people mean. I think they mean it's just becoming less and less of a varied field and it's staring to lose whatever creative dynamism it may have had at some point.[/quote'] How could it ruin something that it isn't? Is it not the djent side of the sound that tends to be the most trendy and irritating? Why then would we blame that on the sound said artists are trying (poorly) to fuse it with?
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I don't think it's completely idiotic to say that djent is 'ruining' progressive metal' date=' because it is becoming popular and making it less likely for labels to pick up groups doing something different. I've heard loads of complaints, on this forum, about excessively 'slick' sound production, I don't think it'd be complete nonsense for someone to argue that it is to a certain extent ruining death metal. It doesn't ruin any of the bands that are actually good, and doesn't necessarily damage the genre as a whole, but I don't quite think that's what people mean. I think they mean it's just becoming less and less of a varied field and that it's starting to stagnate.[/quote'] It would make sense to talk about it from that point of view, but a lot of bands have recently embraced more organic production as a backlash against that sort of polish, and I think that more than anything it's becoming an aesthetic choice that bands can play around with. As far as djent, as annoying as I find most of that stuff, I think I it shows a lot of forward motion. It's obviously a fruitful pursuit for a lot of musicians. There have always been tons of shitty bands picking up the scraps of every genre, and labels often put their business choices ahead of artistic consideration.
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How could it ruin something that it isn't? Is it not the djent side of the sound that tends to be the most trendy and irritating? Why then would we blame that on the sound said artists are trying (poorly) to fuse it with?
Well, I've heard djent being used by bands like Voyager and Orden Ogan for whom it didn't really work all that well (at first, anyway; I've enjoyed Voyager's latest way more than I should). I know it's sort of a 'genre' but that sort of sound has been incorporated elsewhere and I typically don't care for it.
As far as djent' date=' as annoying as I find most of that stuff, I think I it shows a lot of forward motion. It's obviously a fruitful pursuit for a lot of musicians.[/quote'] Yeah...Benevolent's full-length was crap though. Kind of a pity, the EP hinted at something a lot less depressingly dry.
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That is certainly controversial... and wrong. [emoji4]
It's funny because when it comes to Norwegian black metal I almost always prefer a band's earlier works. Burzum, Darkthrone, Mayhem, Emperor etc. etc. it's always the first one or two (or three in the case of Burzum) records that I regard as the best. Not so with Gorgoroth. Although I really like their early stuff as well.
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It's funny because when it comes to Norwegian black metal I almost always prefer a band's earlier works. Burzum' date=' Darkthrone, Mayhem, Emperor etc. etc. it's always the first one or two (or three in the case of Burzum) records that I regard as the best. Not so with Gorgoroth. Although I really like their early stuff as well.[/quote'] I don't think they ever released an album that I could call bad, but the Gaahl era material is definitely lacking.
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I liked Wolf's Lair Abyss and Grand Declaration ok' date=' but they haven't held up for me. I don't really like Mayhem a whole bunch in general.[/quote'] Wolf's Lair Abyss gets my vote as their worst just behind Chimera, but Grand Declaration is awesome. Ordo Ad Chao was great, and Esoteric Warfare was a bit disappointing, but still good.
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