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Equilibrium was the last true Emperor album' date=' and was their most ambitious at the time, more seamlessly integrating the newer elements that were introduced on Anthems, but the riffs and atmosphere on ItNE are the best of their career IMO.[/quote'] If by 'true Emperor' you are referring to the style of In the Nightside Eclipse, then I disagree. Equilibrium obviously originates from their earlier two albums, but I'd say they slowly took off towards Prometheus before Equilibrium was even released. Equilibrium obviously features the elements of Anthems in a much more polished way, but I can't help but feel that they didn't manage to keep it up for an entire album. I find that Equilibrium goes through too many ups and downs while trying to exploit the style of Anthems. Hence, I'd take Anthems over its successor, although both are great albums.
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I get alot of flak from my deathhead buddies for this, but I personally LOVE Deicide's Stench of Redemption, I think its just as good as Legion just stylistically different, which I think is what alienated previous fans. It was one of my favorite albums that year, easily, and imo the last quality work Glen benton put out.

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I get alot of flak from my deathhead buddies for this' date=' but I personally LOVE Deicide's Stench of Redemption, I think its just as good as Legion just stylistically different, which I think is what alienated previous fans. It was one of my favorite albums that year, easily, and imo the last quality work Glen benton put out.[/quote'] It was easily their best since Legion, but I wouldn't put it on par with that one or the debut. It's melodious and kind of wanky, but they just do it right.
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Pantera was a good band
Hmm. Here in Greece, on a Slayer concert Anselmo came on stage halfshow because it was his Bday, and they played Pantera's Fucking Hostile. Leaving about 20k people shouting "Pantera" "Pantera", with Slayer on stage. So I'm gonna take it that your statement is controversial, because you said just good. :D
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It was easily their best since Legion' date=' but I wouldn't put it on par with that one or the debut. It's melodious and kind of wanky, but they just do it right.[/quote'] yeah, the addition of Santolla did give it a little wankery but as you said I think they did it just right. Lord's Sedition and Death to Jesus were fantastic tracks to me, shame Glen pretty much spent the last of his voice's miles on that album, he sounds like an old man on all the later releases
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yeah' date=' the addition of Santolla did give it a little wankery but as you said I think they did it just right. Lord's Sedition and Death to Jesus were fantastic tracks to me, shame Glen pretty much spent the last of his voice's miles on that album, he sounds like an old man on all the later releases[/quote'] He's also lazy and pathetic live, few death metal bands have ever bored me so in the live setting.
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Blast Beats and Deathcore vocals are garbage and ruining Metal.
While deathcore vocals are terrible, you couldn't be more wrong about blast beats ruining metal. Blast beats are a technique that metal drummers have been using for 30 years, and can frequently be the best fit for various extreme passages in metal. However, deathcore vocals are a relatively new trend that combine the pop screaming of mallcore with some techniques found in brutal and slam death metal, and those vocals weren't great to begin with when those guys used them.
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Blast Beats and Deathcore vocals are garbage and ruining Metal.
Taking a "stand" is quite the popular move, huh? I've heard deathcore vocals that are identical to "real" death metal vocals in every way except for production, as well as some that are consistent with what BAN describes. Good as well as bad IMO. Blastbeats are hugely varied and great in the right context. If they're not to your taste, there's plenty of metal being produced without either. Are you interested in upholding some standard of "purity", or just think people shouldn't be making music with those elements because you personally dislike them?
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There are plenty of drummers out there excuting blast beats well, and in the right circumstances they fit the music, perhaps you mean having blast beats for the sake of having blast beats is pointless and I would agree with that. To suggest that any technique is "ruining metal" however is laughably close-minded.

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There are plenty of drummers out there excuting blast beats well' date=' and in the right circumstances they fit the music, perhaps you mean having blast beats for the sake of having blast beats is pointless and I would agree with that. To suggest that any technique is "ruining metal" however is laughably close-minded.[/quote'] He's likely an older metal fan that heard some deathcore nonsense and decided to paint everything more extreme than Metallica into the same evil corner. It likely has more to do with writing off harsh vocals and intense drumming altogether, but those are the only terms that he was familiar with.
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I looked at his posts, and yes, he does seem to mainly like 70's and 80's stuff. Now I'm not inclined to dogpile him because I generally don't like blast beats or pig-squeals either. Still, I've heard them work so I won't dismiss them out of turn.

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I looked at his posts' date=' and yes, he does seem to mainly like 70's and 80's stuff. Now I'm not inclined to dogpile him because I generally don't like blast beats or pig-squeals either. Still, I've heard them work so I won't dismiss them out of turn.[/quote'] Surprised to hear you say that about blastbeats, given the tech death you listen to.
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Surprised to hear you say that about blastbeats' date=' given the tech death you listen to.[/quote'] To be honest, I like blast beats most when I can ignore them. When a band gives me enough to listen to that the blast beats aren't bothersome, I can put up with it. Blood Revolt would be a good example.
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I'm not sure an opinion being incoherent or demonstrably wrong disqualifies it from also being controversial.
I suppose you're right, in a literal sense. My point is that there's no real debate because it's a non-issue. Plenty of people don't like growling or blastbeats, so they listen to music that doesn't have them. It's like watching one WNBA game and then claiming that women are "ruining sports".
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