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Yes but in that world they were still trying to uphold a society with the idealogy we are accustomed to presently in most respects. Whereas in my model the castes are free to act of their own accord when not working. Unlike the model proposed by BFM there is no danger of the masses acting in an unpredictable manner given they are content with their existance and their percieved liberties.

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Yes but in that world they were still trying to uphold a society with the idealogy we are accustomed to presently in most respects. Whereas in my model the castes are free to act of their own accord when not working. Unlike the model proposed by BFM there is no danger of the masses acting in an unpredictable manner given they are content with their existance and their percieved liberties.
I don't want to live in a world with "perceived liberty". I want pure 100% unadulterated liberty and this involves having chaos until such time as people develop the intelligence to understand how to use that freedom properly.
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I don't want to live in a world with "perceived liberty". I want pure 100% unadulterated liberty and this involves having chaos until such time as people develop the intelligence to understand how to use that freedom properly.
I have to agree with you on that one.
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By and large even highly intelligent people are too stupid to make use of these liberties in any meaningful manner and this will never, ever, change. People need to think they have freedom in order to prevent rebellion and to a certain extent these freedoms are highly tangible. My utopian ideal is a world free of violence, war, hatred, famine, poverty and disease. To this end I consider the model set out by Brave New World, with some necessary adjustments of course, the most effective means of achieving this goal.

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I don't want a world where I can't drink' date=' smoke, look at porn or have any fun. You need to have a little chaos to balance things out. Not too much but a little.[/quote'] That's where the modifications to the Brave New World regime come into play heightened freedom brings about greater satisfaction with all facets of one's life and the likelihood of resistance to the system reduces even further.
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I think you forget that humanity is still developing and evolving. If we continue to evolve at this pace then yes making a utopian world is out of the question but if we bring humanity back up to speed give it say 1000 years and I feel we would be able to successfully build a utopian society with the intelligence to sustain 100% freedom, but only if we continue to help humanity evolve as a whole.

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A few mosh pits in some malls would be nice and nice name for them. All we need is beer, metal and moshpits and we can have a fucking blast. All those normies need to have drama and fighting and bullshit in their lives or else they don't feel complete, what a bunch of shit. Oh and almost forgot they need to have stupidity that's the most essential ingredient to any normie.

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