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  1. MOTORHEAD!!!!!!! \m/ \m/ zi0khDTAvoQ
    Jeez! I was at that gig Dave-10th Anniversary at Hammersmith Odeon. Brilliant! Other old bands worth checking out (with recommended albums): Gillan-Mr Universe UFO-The Wild, The Willing And The Innocent Thin Lizzy-Jailbreak Accept-Balls To The Wall Deep Purple-Machine Head Samson-Shock Tactics Blue Oyster Cult-Secret Treaties Saxon-Strong Arm Of The Law Rainbow-Rising
  2. I'm surprised to see Ministry on you disappointments list, that was easily one of the most intense and impressive shows I've ever seen. It was actually on Mother's day that I saw them, can't remember if it was 5 or 6 years ago, but they were incredible. Sent from my HTC PH39100 using Tapatalk 2
    The first time I saw them was at Brixton Academy on the Sphinctour. They were awful. The gig was recorded and some of the tracks made the live album later on, but the gig was roundly panned by the metal press. Saw them a couple of years later and they were brilliant. But Al was totally clean by then. I don't know how many times I've seen Motorhead, 20 maybe, but the first time was Iron Fist and they were awful that night. Some 7 new songs from an album not yet released. When I look back at that gig and read about the friction in the band at the time, we were witnessing the death of the 'classic' line-up right before our eyes.
  3. Sometimes the best bands deliver the best shows: AC/DC, Thin Lizzy, Deep Purple, The Scorpions, Rob Zombie, Saxon, Dropkick Murphys (when they were an Oi! band), Sham 69 (rare, admittedly), Sepultura, Slayer, Sick Of It All, Judas Priest, Rammstien, Ozzy, Twisted Sister.... And sometimes you get sensational live shows from the unexpected: Murphy's Law, Agnostic Front, Dog Eat Dog, Biohazard, Peter and The Test Tube Babies,, Toy Dolls, Hard Skin, King Prawn And somehow there's major dissapointments: Motorhead (not always great, but not often bad), Iron Maiden (seen 'em at Ayr Pavilion twice and Glasgow Apollo once-poor stuff, even though I like them), Fear Factory (you've had your chance, lads), Ministry (going through the motions IMO), Faith No More (patchy), Entombed, Crowbar, The Ramones (no, there is nothing clever about playing so fast that your singer can't keep up).

  4. Offcourse Ghosts success depends on their ''gimmick'' the whole idea of that Satan would enter them and write their music, They been making everything like that, they made an interview early on when they took the guy with a bag over his head to a location, put him in a dark room and then made the interview. They mystery around them got them attention yes. Again, this type of things is part of an image, Something many bands dont have, which i think is sad, because in my eyes it makes them boring, Sure the music absolutely comes first but to watch a band play live without anything more than just music could go either way. Now again im talking about liveshows, but thats what got me liking Ghost from the beginning.
    'Metal' has always suffered from an image crisis with the music press (I'm not meaning the general media, but 'serious' music journalists), and yes, whilst the 2nd Ghost album in particular has serious Beatles influences (so does Ozzy's 'Ozmosis' album and Motorhead's 1916), it can only be good when you see the silly fun Papa and The Ghouls are having, playing at Satanism and producing great and very talented, rock music. The 'gimmick' is great fun! Lighten up guys! It's not meant to be taken that seriously!! But I reckon the guys 'n' ghouls are very good song writers and may be around for a lot longer than even they think....
  5. My "that's not metal" attitude comes from bands that are really pop in metal clothing. I personally believe that this is an important distinction, as for the last few decades, pop music has become so banal and stuck in a creative nadir of pandering to the lowest common denominator that anything it is mixed with is like oil and water. I don't just say this with metal, but all genres, though since this is a metal forum and that's predominantly what I listen to, that's what you hear me say it about. Good Charlotte isn't punk, they're pop, which should take nothing away from legitimate punk bands because it's not the same. Same goes for crap like Rascal Flatts being labeled country, Lil Wayne being labeled rap, and all of the various screamo bands being called metal. There's plenty of metal I don't like, I have a hard time with slam death, really blasty tech-death and black metal, Euro flower metal, some gothic metal, retro heavy/thrash/occult rock, but I'm not going to say that it's not metal because I don't like it. This is also not to say that metal bands can't mix their sound with other genres, quite the contrary as I like interesting hybrids, but mixing any genre with pop music totally negates its original purpose and it becomes invalid in my eyes. Sent from my HTC PH39100 using Tapatalk 2
    I agree, Blut, especially the 'punk' analogy coz I'm steeped in it. But the parallels you draw are obvious. Of course Good Charlotte aren't punk, but for some to say that Slipknot, Machine Head and Trivium aren't metal is utterly preposterous. They may not fit into some folks 'photo-fit ID' of metal, but they're metal. They may have 'image' issues for some folk, but they're metal. And they get slaughtered by some metal fans that should be 'supporting' them them (note-I said support, not 'like' nor buy their records. I hate Metallica, but I support them and stick up for them coz they're metal, and important to the scene). I will not, nor ever be, part of the Metal Taliban. The music's too important to look at. It should be listened to.
  6. You make a good point about what is extreme today is mainstream tomorrow. As for bands being snubbed by the media, it's all for the sake of a story. They like to build up different trends, then denigrate them to create drama; this goes for almost every genre. And you are definitely right about the popularity thing. If a band puts out good music, then they deserve to sell millions. Trying to keep a scene underground just limits its potential and hurts the bands. Pop music is in flux right now. Dance and bubblegum pop music has been massive for the past two or three years, but I think people are getting tired of it. The hipster/indie scene also seems to be fading as well. People want something different, and I think hard rock and metal really have a niche that they could fill in the mainstream market.
    Maybe it's a regional thing, Dude, but 'rock' music (very loosely termed-AC/DC, Bon Jovi, G n R, Led Zep) are probably getting recognition from the mainstream media and music press in the UK for the first ever. If you flick through the UK tabloids for instance, these bands are starting to get mentioned in the gossip columns!!! Metal and hard rock will always be popular, though stadium bands may be thin on the ground. However, my point about 'metal' fans shooting themselves in the foot with elitism still stands-that's maybe why we won't see stadium metal bands like Metallica, GnR, AC/DC again-'metal' (very broad term I'm using here) has become split within itself, and polarised. It wasn't in the past, certainly not to the extremes is it now. Folk like myself turned their noses up at thrash etc when it came out, but we were open minded enough to admit we were wrong and to give it a second listen. That's how popularity spreads. We never said 'oh that's not metal so I'm not listeneing to it'. But that 'it's not metal' attitude is prevelant in the scene now, and that's why I think it's bad for 'metal'. There's some folk on here and elsewhere who say Machine Head aren't metal!!! That's just preposterous, and bad for the metal scene as a whole. Remember-the biggest selling 'metal' band ever are AC/DC, and they were slaughtered at the peak of their creativity for being 'metal-just a bloody racket'. Those same folk now class them as 'classic rock' and have bought their entire back catalogue. That's why AC/DC sell out Wembley Stadium in 30 mins. They would have done in 1980 as well if those folk had been open minded.
  7. As an old fart, I'll bore the knickers off you with another history lesson (or maybe it's just a reminder to other old farts?): Metal/hard rock has always been underground. Even in the '70s and '80s. It's always been treated with contempt but it's always been popular. AC/DC, Lizzy, Sabbath etc were all selling out venues in Europe and the USA etc. But they were effectively underground bands, snubbed by the music press and media in general. When Slayer and the thrash bands hit the scene most metal fans at the time said "christ-that's too much". I include myself in that. But Metallica and Slayer etc soon became, if not stadium bands, then arena bands. I see no reason why another 'wave' of metal can't come through and be popular/big again. That's because, IMO, the things that make metal popular will always be there-the music. It's that simple! Loud, fast, aggressive rock 'n' roll was first (AC/DC, Lizzy, Sabbath etc), this evolved into metal as we know it (Saxon, Maiden, Motorhead etc) and this evolved into/influenced the thrash/death/black/more extreme stuff and so on. It's a 'blood-line' and it continues to this day. Sure, Deathspell Omega ain't gonna sell out a stadium, but just look at the size of some of the metal tours and festivals that sell out-it's maybe just as popular as ever? What I do find disturbing though, is posters on here saying they don't want it to be popular!!??? Why??? I certainly don't want phonies latching onto my bands, but if metal becomes too 'underground' it will cease to exist. These bands have to feed and cloth themselves, for god's sake! I've said it before and I'll say it again-the biggest threat to metal is elitism within it's own scene.

  8. I agree with gus666 on this. If a band cant do a good performance or if they have no stage presence what so ever. I mostly do stop listening to those bands' date=' [u']forget them to an extent. Its another thing with bands like Darkthrone who dont tour at all. Then all the impressions you can get are from the albums. Another thing is bands you dont listen to but anyway do good shows. In Flames are one of those bands that are fun to see live, but i never ever put on a album of theirs. I had mixed feelings about Anvil before i saw them on stage. And now, Well i just try to forget about their existence.
    I'm glad you agree with me, Scullion. I always felt I was judging bands a bit harshly thinking that way! Fear Factory were a band I really like, then seen them supporting Ozzy at the Barrowlands in Glasgow and they were shite. Gave them another chance, headlining their own show a few months later and they were marginally better. But not much. Still listen to them but haven't bought an album since.... Funny you saying that about In Flames-I went along to see White Zombie with a mate, just for the night out/drinking. I didn't like them, but they were absolutely fantastic live. Never bought an album of theirs, but it made me more open minded to Rob zombie's solo stuff when it was released, and I love those albums.
  9. I agree! Their are a number of bands that can barely put on a show. Some of these bands are nothing more than a bunch of guys standing around playing instruments. Most of my favorite groups have a decent amount of stage presence' date=' and can entertain a crowd.[/quote'] If you think some metal bands are poor live, you should check out the indie scene! My wife likes some of them and I've been to a few, including T In The Park. I'd rather rub broken glass intae ma neck than watch REM, The Dandy Warholes or The Killers again. Bunch of university wankers that think they're intellectually superior to everyone. The worst live metal band pisses all over them, believe me!
  10. I must admit to being surprised at the original post. I grew up in the '70s and '80s when the live show was everything. I just thought that was still the case! The volume, the atmosphere, the sound, the show...Everything!!! If you can't do it live for me, I tend to 'fall out of love' with a band.

  11. NTNR's tastes are ambiguous and confusing to put it lightly. What's interesting about his hatred for Ghost is that I moat often hear their sound compared to Blue Oyster Cult, a band that NTNR loves. Then again, how somebody could hate Celtic Frost when their favorite death metal band is Obituary is beyond me. Sent from my HTC PH39100 using Tapatalk 2
    Well we're all entitled to an opinion, even if it seems contradictory. Of course, in the modern sense of metal, Ghost aren't really metal, but the first time I heard them was 'Ritual' and I thought "That's BOC, and that solo has got Buck Dharma's fingerprints all over it...". The new stuff definitely has a feeling of "The Beatles have found Satan", but I like it. And my lugs were absolutely BLASTED when I saw them last month, so fuckin' loud I couldn't believe it!
  12. what's wrong with Rush? if they ever came to Australia I'd love to see them live and what's wrong with outdoor gigs? admittedly I've only been to one (AC/DC) but the sound was brilliant however I suspect that given weather in Australia is invariably perfect during summer this played some part in that
    Nothing wrong with Rush, didn't say there was, Restless, just that their style of music doesn't lose any impact if the sound isn't heavy and loud, whereas I reckon Mastadon need it loud. And outdoor gigs can be notoriously dodgy sound-wise. Rain can completely ruin the day (Donnington 1981 for example). And, as I stated, being windy can also bugger it up too.
  13. First album has like three decent songs' date=' the second album is complete horseshit and the band should probably just give up the ghost and admit they aren't going to meet the expectations of that 750,000$ recording advance they got. They are riding a trend that is on its way out with bands like The Devil's blood breaking up, the occult rock/vest metal trend is fucking shit.[/quote'] I obviously disagree mate, but especially about the trend thing. I don't think they're following a trend at all, and their whole 'satanism' thing is very tongue-in-cheek...
  14. Yeah there's def some bands that don't sound great live' date=' as you say they might have too much going on to be able to transfer it live, it was an outdoor gig n would like to hear them in a small venue just to see.[/quote'] Ahhh, outside is even worse then, eh? I remember I got my wife tickets to awful-indie-wank-festival- T In The Park because Foo Fighters and The Killers were on. So we went. Foo Fighters are actually OK and Dave Grohl should be a USA national treasure...BUT When the wind got up, the sound LITERALLY blew away!!! Certainly, that was a poofy, powder-puff indie-wankfest, but if the sound was dodgy outdoors at Mastadon, it wouldn't do their complex songs any good. Especially when (unlike other proggy, complex bands like Rush), Mastadon NEED the heaviness to compliment the intricacy of the songs.
  15. Aaah shit' date=' must be buried in the depths of the forum somewhere...[/quote'] Not really, but no matter-it's ALL good! Appart from Eurovision, the only musical pleasure I should have felt guilty about was The Housemartins. Good pop-tunes, but I couldn't go the sanctimonious-holier-than-thou politics. Keepp the guilt coming, Citizen!!!;)
  16. I really fancy going this year, never been and would be going on my own. Heard the campsites can be full of nuisances, but can't really see how that is, coz metal fans are easy going. Anyone been on their own before? BTW I need to do a joby regularly-what's the toilets like?

  17. I'll be there. I'm especially looking forward to seeing Belphegor' date=' Dark Funeral, Lamb of God and Gormathon. Quite excited to see [b']Sabaton too, although I wouldn't class myself as a massive fan. I'm hoping that some more Black Metal will be announced before August. It doesn't necessarily have to be a big band (I think we only have 4 spots left on the RJD stage anyway), but some more BM in the Sophie and New Blood tents would hit the spot. Perhaps someone like Primitive Graven Image? Or, if they're able to get someone bigger, Taake would be superb.
    Lou-you should be! Go to Youtube and search for Primo Victoria Full Album-brilliant stuff!!!!
  18. Overkill. My favorite Motorhead album, and the light coming out from behind Snaggletooth illuminating his eyes looks awesome. Sent from my HTC PH39100 using Tapatalk 2
    I never realised that it's an exploding Snaggletooth, Blut, not until I read about it. It's without doubt THE most tattooed band logo in the UK, with, IMO, more punks that metal fans having them!!! Me included (but I'm 1/2 punk, 1/2 metal anyway). BRILLIANT thread, BTW! Though March Or Die is my least favourite cover AND least favourite Motorhead album.
  19. Ok not sure if there's already a thread like this but here goes!!! Feel free to delete this thread if there is another!!! Every1 has to have a guilty pleasure of a band they like but r too embarrassed to say....come on spill the beans!!!! My guilty pleasure has to be.........Dr Hook and the Medicine Show!!!! Drug fueled music I just cant help singing along to whenever I hear them...now I'm not a fan of the later soppy stuff but the earlier stuff like Cover of the Rolling Stone and Makin it Natural.
    There is! Mine! And nobody admitted to liking Eurovision....:(
  20. Went to see Metallica a few years ago in Dublin and Mastodon were supporting...a band I'd not listened to before then and hated them they sounded shit an absolute mess!!! I gave them a wide birth since then until a friend brought round an album n I gave it a listen....wow thats not the band that were on stage that night!!! Outstanding technical music....I now own all their albums' date=' the only thing I can think of that gig was that their sound was messed up or something, I'm dying to see them again just to see!!!![/quote'] I can see where you're coming from Citizen. Their music is quite intricate (for heavy music). I saw them play live on BBC bed-wetters music programme 'Later With Jools Holland' and they sounded awful, but I've liked them for a while. Maybe live the intense sound doesn't suit their music. But I've yet to get round to seeing them live (old and frail, 47 next week!). Mind you, my tv was of a quality that would have Mr. J.L. Baird spinning in his grave whilst shaking his head and muttering "why did I f@ckin' bother..."
  21. No presence at all on this tour. Can't remember the name of the album he was supporting, but his song selection mostly favored this new one, and the old songs sounded very unenthusiastic. In addition, no fire, costumes, or crazy shit that he used to do, just jeans and tshirts and the aforementioned projector. Sent from my HTC PH39100 using Tapatalk 2
    Strange indeed Blut. I've only seen him on the UK leg of the Hellbilly 2 Tour and he was sensational. In saying that, 10 years previous (last time he was scheduled to play the UK) he stepped down venues to 'big clubs'. Maybe that was the tour you seen? Of course you may just have thought he was shit no matter when you saw him, but I doubt that.
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