Miss_Teala

I am currently listening to that second part of "I Want You (She's So Heavy)" by The Beatles, and I have always thought that that part almost feels a little bit like doom metal.
It certainly seems like a kind of early inspiration for that genre.

It is a very exciting part, either way.

26 minutes ago, JamesT said:

Fantastic choice!  Stratovarius is always a good call.  "Forever Free" is my favorite song from them overall, but they have so many great tracks.  

Oh yeah, they have a lot of great songs;
"Black Diamond" and "Eagleheart" are great too!
It's hard to resist headbanging to their songs in general.

10 minutes ago, Nasty_Cabbage said:

I sometimes forget just how long this band has been around. Nice choice.

Yeah, I love how the solos often seem to be twice as fast as most other solos;
it is certainly fitting for the title, haha, and they no doubt did that on purpose.

This track is quite a rush. ❣️🔥
 

I have had very positive experiences for the most part, although there have of course been a handful of guys who have had a bit of a patronizing attitude towards me, and thought that I "can't handle it".
But this almost never happens, thankfully.

3 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

I think I will have to go back and have a listen now to decide the matter.

Hmm...I can see why it's your work-out song. But the world would be a better place if it had never existed. Try Electric Callboy for clever beats good for working out that don't abuse the pentatonic scale.

I guess it is the kind of songs that you would need to get used to;
they might be too sugary sweet to some people, I guess.

I have heard "Electric Callboy" a couple times, and it is quite good.

Rock with a intense, rebellious edge to it.

On 12/13/2023 at 8:59 PM, Nasty_Cabbage said:

To each their own, and if you enjoy it I'm glad for you, but I want nowhere near this auditory crime against God and man.

Oh, it's not that bad.

Either way, this is what I am currently listening to;
I like to think of it as a bit of a "wind-down" between the really fast songs:
 

Anyone heard of this song?
I actually like it a lot as my own gym music, although it is quite different from metal music. xP
 

The thing that I have always wondered about is why men who have feminine mannerisms are sometimes considered "sissies".

4 hours ago, Sheol said:

I think that's just playing into the tired old cliches of what constitutes a "Man" and a "Woman". Both genders are to a large part conditioned to behave a certain way or cultivate certain mindsets, conflict resolutions, and emotional responses, or else they are seen as a-typical of their gender. If it's not "adjusted" before kindergarten/school it's usually done by classmates through bullying and social expectations.

Men can absolutely talk about feelings, and they 100% would be better off if they did. But the societal patriarchal norm is that if they do they're a pussy and should man up (the fact that female genitalia is seen as something negative and male as something positive, is a whole another discussion). But to talk, or hell even recognize and name your emotions, is something you learn to do, it's not innate. That's why women are supposedly "better" at it. They're taught that that is how you resolve conflicts, process and problem solve, and encourage group cohesion. Men are taught that the most accepted way of enabling group cohesion is to perform activities together, and problem solve by actions/force.

I have noticed that a lot of things that are considered girly are seen as something negative if men do it.

If my girl-friends and I talk sweetly to each other and give each other endearing compliments, or cry easily or something like that, then this seems to be received much more positively than if guys do it.
And if I wear some pink glittery shirt or something like that on it then that is seen as "cute", whereas it seems to be viewed as negative if a man does that.

On 3/28/2022 at 8:01 AM, GoatmasterGeneral said:

If there were more women metalheads the world would be a much better place.

I have noticed that I have mostly got positive reactions from boys when they have found out that I like metal music.

There have been a handful of times when I have felt like they have wanted me to "prove" that I am a serious fan, but I have been a fan for only a few months so far, so I haven't had enough time to become very familiar with everything. 😋

Other than that, they seem very supportive of my interest in it, and they apparently think that it is "cool" when I try to headbang a bit and move my hair around.

I have heard a few guys say that metal music is considered more of an "aggressive" genre, and thus usually appeals more to guys since guys are believed to have a more aggressive nature than girls.

I have noticed a few signs of that on various occasions, like for example of two guys get into an argument then there is often this feeling that they could get into a physical fight at any moment (and sometimes do), whereas if girls get into an argument then it is a lot more verbal.
I have also noticed that my female friends and I will often spend a lot of time on having intimate discussions about our romantic relationships or on how we feel and things like that, where guys seem to be more closed about that and focusing their attention more outward and being more rough with each other (in a playful way, but still).

On 2/16/2022 at 12:22 AM, Dead1 said:

Metal is ultimately masculine in its whole presentation and aesthetic which makes it unappealing to your average woman. In fact metal has not moved on its presentation as aggressive angry male music at all since the 1990s.  

Yes, I also feel that it is probably more accepted for men to enjoy metal, since it matches the biological/cultural characteristics of men.

The typical gender characteristics tend to be that men are tough, unmoved, aggressive and commanding, whereas women are sweet and tender, non-confrontational and meek, so metal is probably more associated with men for that reason.

I would say that I personally have a very typical feminine personality in that regard, so people often seem surprised when they find out that I have learned to enjoy metal.

Yeah, I mean The Beatles had a lot of stuff lying around for a very long time before they released it, like for example the tracks "The One After 909" and "When I'm 64", so it makes sense that Metallica may have also had some songs "on hold" for some time, for similar reasons.

This is something that I have always been curious about;
I know that Cliff Burton wrote parts of the track "To Live Is To Die", however did he know about any of the other songs after Master Of Puppets apart from that?
I feel like some of the songs after that album could have been "in the works" shortly before he died, like maybe some riffs that they had played around with or something like that.

There used to be one very successful artist in Sweden who was really popular throughout his life until 1997, who was called Ted Gärdestad, and he wrote a lot of really beautiful melodies (his brother Kenneth Gärdestad wrote the lyrics), and this is one of my favourite songs with him so far - it always makes a huge impact on me:
 

It was in small steps, but pretty recently.
I had a boyfriend a year ago who listened to a lot of that type of music, and he would sometimes tell me that it was called "thrash" and all that, but we didn't talk about it too much.

We don't date anymore, but I started thinking about this genre more and more, since I had secretly found it interesting.
However, I didn't tell anyone about it at first, since I felt a bit awkward about being seemingly the only girl who was interested in this genre;
I guess it is a little bit like how guys might hesitate to tell people if they like boy bands, but for me it was the other way round, if you know what I mean, haha - it didn't seem "sweet" and "cutesy" enough, I guess.
I have however learned that metal music is more popular among girls than I used to think, and this forum is one more stepping stone for me to get more and more familiar with it. ^-^

I have noticed that guys are generally surprised in a positive way when I tell them that I like this genre;
their reactions are usually like "wow, you are a fan of that?" with a smile, and start asking me how I like it with great interest, and that is very sweet of them.

2 hours ago, blaaacdoommmmfan said:

Welcome to the forum miss t. I hope you've enjoyed your time so far.   I've been to a thrash concert last year of acid reign who were in the British big 4 and whilst most of the fans were boys(actually mostly old boys 😂) there was a few females there having a great time.    Other metal genres have a majority female fans like nightwish. A forum member used to post about this subject because he said alot of females like heavy metal.  Out of interest who are your best thrash bands. Surely Mettalica is in there. Am I right😁

Thank you, blaccckdoommmmfan. 🤗
Ah yes, I have heard the Metallica songs from their first 3 albums, and they have been really good.
I am still getting used to it, but I feel good about it.

It is a very different experience for me, in a lot of ways;
partly because of my personality, and partly because of the kind of music that my friends and I have been into.
My personality is about as far away as one can get from the attitude of thrash metal music - I am really really meek and non-confrontational, pretty quiet, and moved to tears really easily, and my friends and I have mostly been fans of slow ballads and boy bands.
So I am very fascinated by thrash metal, since it is so very different from all that.
It was a bit scary in the beginning, but now it is mostly energetic. ^-^

2 hours ago, Sheol said:

There's an old "common wisdom" that the reason most metal musicians and fans are pretty mellow and friendly IRL is because they get their aggression out via the music. And to an extent I think that it's true. Now the opposite may just as well be true too, that metal attracts people who are of a similar mental mindset, who knows? But for me growing up I can definitely say that metal helped me release emotions I didn't know how to process or express.

Ah yes, that sounds very logical.

I think that in my case it is largely because thrash metal is like the complete opposite of my personality;
I have always been extremely meek and non-confrontational, and also quite a bit shy, so thrash metal feels like a burst of energy in that way, if that makes sense, haha.

It is quite funny when people do figure out that I enjoy this genre, since I tend to come off as this delicate girl who probably listen exclusively to slow ballads and boy bands or something of that nature.
And while I do enjoy those kinds of bands, I have also found a new passion in thrash metal. ^-^

I am not really bothered by my core personality, except a bit when I know that I should be more assertive, so I am not really trying to use thrash metal to "change" myself in that way or anything - but it is an uplifting new experience. ^-^

4 minutes ago, JonoBlade said:

For what it is worth, I went to see a gig on Friday night at my local pub that, to my disappointment, was sold out; but I stayed for a beer and noted plenty of women there of all ages. This was more stoner rock than thrash, but my observation is that metal, like everything else, is just more open than it used to be.

I have a 12 year old daughter so have a vested interest in ensuring the barriers keep coming down. It would be great if she liked metal - because at least then we'd have something in common - but fine if she doesn't. We'll always have Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.

 

That is nice to know. ^-^
I am not sure why I have been "concerned" about whether there are a lot of female fans or not, but for some reason it felt important in some way - at least when it comes to the fact that I seem to be alone with this passion among my friends.
But it is great to have a lot of fellow fans on this forum. ^-^

I have been watching a few old Mr. Bean episodes lately - the ones from between 1990-1995.
He is really funny.

2 hours ago, RelentlessOblivion said:

Metal in general is more popular with guys, in much the same way as rock, loud music must trigger The tribal brain in someway, the same thing is seen in rap another generally male dominated genre. I think it’s just a blokes are closer to our caveman ancestors LOL

Ah yeah, you are right.^-^
I have also noticed that my friends and I tend to have much more personal conversations than the guys that I know how hang out, like long talks about our feelings and concerns and giving each other advice about boyfriends and things like that. And also calling each other "cute" and saying "love you" to each other.
I don't typically see guys act that way, even though they are of course usually nice to each other - but they often seem more rough and tough with each other.
So this might make them more drawn to thrash metal on average.

For me, my newfound passion for thrash metal has a lot to do with a discovery of a new type of mood and attitude.

I am the kind of person who has always been considered really meek and shy, and I never get the least bit angry at anyone if it isn't something really really serious, and I am very easily moved to tears by things.
So thrash metal feels quite liberating in a way, since it has a lot of energy and intensity to it.

17 minutes ago, RelentlessOblivion said:

Yeah thrash is definitely a love or hate it genre, you might have more luck showing your friends songs like One or Fade to Black.

Yeah, that is true.^-^
I will try those songs next time.

I like how those songs work really well as a bit of a "break" from faster songs, while at the same time being able to feel intense in their own way.
I recently saw Metallica's live video of that song from 1985, at Metal Hammer Festival, and they headbanged a lot during the parts between the verses.

Do you know why thrash metal music would seem more popular among guys, by the way?
I have always had that impression a lot.