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First of all, this is not my own band but of a good friend of mine. I'm happy though that I'll be contributing to the upcoming album "Dawn of a Crimson Empire" which will be released in a couple of months through the German label Folter Records. The band hasn't played many gigs yet, but a couple of months ago they had the honour to be the opener for an Inquisition gig on their tour. This track is taken from the 2015 demo.

Mayhem - Live in Leipzig

Pantera - The Great Southern Trendkill

Unfortunately the label NSBM is way too often applied to any Black Metal band that plays in Germany, even to those that have absolutely nothing to do with these ideologies. There are actually a whole lot of people who simply try to cancel underground BM concerts just because they can.

If nothing goes horribly wrong I'll be providing the intro track which will be a summoning ritual. Nothing overly spectacular, but there may be some future collaborations as I'm friends with the band anyway.

Well, Blackened Death Metal (or Black/Death Metal) is just a blend of both genres, it doesn't matter which one is more prominent. Death Metal with "Black Metal" lyrics would still simply be Death Metal – just as Black Metal with other lyrics than you would typically expect is still Black Metal. There are BM bands with lyrics about philosophy, astrophysics, fantasy literature, gore themes, mental disorders... hell, there's even a band that sings about sewers. While some genres have a pool of lyrical themes you typically associate with it, the genre doesn't change because a band decides to sing about something that is untypical for that genre (unless you want to be super specific). There are exceptions, of course, like that useless NSBM genre (National Socialist Black Metal). But political bands are a different topic. Unless the lyrical themes are (like in the case of NSBM) something drastic that is the main aspect for the sub-genre for one reason or the other, the music itself is still what defines the genre.

Thyrfing – De Ödeslösa

Taake "Doedskvad" Mgla "Presence EP"

Wardruna - Runaljod - Yggdrasil

We actually have an English-only policy here, although it's hardly ever been an issue, so I'll say welcome to the forum, but please use English in general if you want to stick around.

Hi Mary Welcome to the forum

Sigh "Gallows Gallery"

There's everything to like about that! Good to see some Melbourne weather getting out and about, seeing this fine country of ours. Here it's "a black winter day. No, darker than that. Gloomier than an autumn night."

The weather's come over all Melbourne today. Storms rolling through, it's cold and windy, nothing to like about this.

People certainly were calling bands black metal in the 80's, to the point that the Bay Area thrash band Forbidden Evil changed their name to Forbidden because they didn't want people to think that they were a black metal band. It's not as though the label was retroactively applied, at least not in most cases, but most metal fans of the time thought of black metal as a joke and largely disregarded it. This was due in part to the antics/over-the-top imagery of some of the bands, the cheesy satanic lyrics, and the admittedly sloppy playing of most of the bands that developed the genre. If it was being retroactively applied, then it's remarkable that all of these bands from scenes around the world all happened to get the same idea at roughly the same time and identified themselves as a genre based on the "unrelated sounds" of their ancestors. Sent from my HTC6535LVW using Tapatalk Also, regarding Slayer, Show No Mercy and Hell Awaits are a lot closer to Melissa and Obsessed By Cruelty than Ride the Lightning and Spreading the Disease. They were still pretty thrashy before becoming fully thrash on Reign in Blood, but there was definitely a lot of black metal happening in their sound early on. Sent from my HTC6535LVW using Tapatalk

I see Slayer written up on that board. Great black metal band, Slayer.... Also, I wasn't claiming that the Norwegian scene was the first of the second wave to appear - I was suggesting that when it came to calling things 'black metal', the naming took place by people in the 90s looking back at the 80s. I don't really care who it was who did the naming, but I'm trying to point out that no one was calling the first wave bands "black metal" in the sense that we know the name now. I think BAN misinterpreted what I was trying to say on this, and I was going to let it go, but I see Salmonella is now running with it. This doesn't mean that bands weren't black metal, but it was a minor point in my post that I wanted to clarify. Black metal (any era!) is varied, and that's definitely to its credit. Even taking the Norwegian bands, look how different Burzum, Darkthrone, Satyricon, Emperor and Mayhem all were from each other. Just amazing.

Black Flag - In My Head