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I don't know if it's worth a damn, not having tried it, but I've seen in my local that several of the better known foreign brewers like Paulaner and Weihenstephan are making non-alcoholic versions of their beer. If anyone can pull off a reliably decent tasting non-alcoholic, it's probably going to be one of them. What's interesting about those breweries though, is because their beer is so "blah" in flavor, their quality control is absolutely topnotch. It has to be because being so lacking in actual flavor any deviation would be incredibly noticeable

Non-alcoholic beer is actually a big trend with the kids and breweries are ramping up production to match. Personally, I don't see the point, but whatever floats their boat. If I want something non-alcoholic, many better choices. But hey, for folks with legit medical reasons to avoid alcohol but still want to enjoy a beer, it's a boon.

After recent health scare and the fact that any amount of alcohol now induces crippling anxiety for at least 24 hours afterwards, I quit drinking around 3 months ago. I have any zero alcohol option "beer" that is on offer in whatever place we are in at the time but the taste of these tings varies wildly from borderline tap water to completely OTT flavourings that are not well balanced. Erdinger and Leffe are the pick of the bunch with San Miguel coming a distant third. Increasingly, when in bars with microbreweries or specialist draughts I find the zero alcohol stuff sells out pretty quickly suggesting they order/produce minimal amounts. Prefer a green tea nowadays to be fair though.

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Pretty good actually. Glad to not have enough hair for a manly man bun or grizzly adams beard too. Definitely a regional thing. I'm sure there are plenty of good variations in local areas. The mass produced stuff always disappoints no matter the style. Beer should be local, like food in my opinion.

How does it feel to be part of the basic-bitch casual crowd that can't handle the throat-eradicating, tongue-petrifying bitterness real men crave? I think part of the reason they're everywhere is that they're easy to do an ok job on quickly, and the hop flavor and bitterness can cover up a lot of little flaws and inconsistencies that would ruin a more nuanced beer. But that doesn't make for a great experience. They are not all like that. If you're ever up this way, like for Messe Des Morts, lemme know. Too much good beer up here for you not to try some.

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I believe that is what really turned me off to IPAs. Like Surge, I won't turn down a perfectly good beer if someone is handing it to me, but they're never my first choice. Down here, breweries either try to see just how bitter they can make a beer as some kind of badge of honor or how many weird ass fruit combos can be added. It's akin to the hot wings trend, let's make these perfectly good chicken wings inedible as some test of manhood by adding 43 ghost peppers and top it with a scotch bonnet. People claim to enjoy them, but I can't see how. And it's all fine and good. Plenty of beer out there to like for everyone. Just annoying that every brewery has to have 60-75% of the menu dedicated to the same variation of style. In stores, seems that's all they carry anymore and most just suck (the ones you mentioned, Voodoo Ranger, Space Dust, 420, the list goes on). Many started out good, but over the years got bought out by conglomerates or over expanded and the quality dropped. Stone was sold several years ago and had never been the same. Everyone has their own preferences. I personally don't like German beer. Lukewarm on IPAs and Pilsners. Will never seek one out, but will never turn down a freebie.

Bittering depends on the beer. "Hoppy" doesn't necessarily mean "bitter". The hazy New England pale ales keep the later flavor and aroma hop additions much more forward. That's what I loved about them when I couldn't smell things properly, there was enough there for me to latch onto. I don't love hop bitterness for its own sake (don't mind it but don't seek it out) and I really don't like that back-of-the-throat chalky quality that comes with using overly hard water. Talking about trends, there was a trend in overbearing bitterness for a while before the new school hazy style caught on, and I'm glad that one died back. I'm looking for balance and fresh hop flavor/aroma when I drink IPAs. It's slim pickings for the West Coast style up here and harder to find it fresh. We get Stone and Sierra Nevada, that's about it. I used to enjoy them but they can't compete with the local stuff for my dollar. They're just not as good. I also think Sierra has fallen off in general, I don't know if it's just their east coast brewery or my tastes changed or what, but they used to be my favorite all around brewery and now they're just kind of meh. I do look forward to their Celebration Ale in the winter, that's about as close as I get to a west coast IPA anymore.

Obituary ‎@ Frozen Alive recorded at Stodoła Club, Warsaw Poland. August 24th, 2006

Spend a Friday night out here and it's not uncommon to see someone who has been on the piss all night and come midnight he's as pissed as a maggot which can easily been seen by the fact that he's pissed his pants because all he drank all night was fruit flavour beer.

We call all that weak watery stuff piss water. But if you said to a Yank someone's 'on the piss' we'd probably think you meant they were in the dunny or they'd pissed their pants or something. We don't say piss up or piss artist or anything like that. I have heard the phrase "piss drunk" a few times, but never just pissed all by itself. We do have pretty much all the other dozens of slang expressions you'd use for drunkenness over here, just not pissed.

We can attach more than one meaning to many words we use. We can be pissed, drink piss and have a piss. All three can be related but they don't have to be. Often beer is called piss water but generally (by those who drink it) they are referring to light beer not full strength. Fruity beer has always been drunk by man bun sporting, whispy bearded inner city yuppies. But it's all still piss in general because if someone is hitting the piss the are drinking alcohol of any sort.

Yeah, nah. We certainly go on the piss, but piss is also weak and watery beer, like, XXXX.

There is no fruit in the beer. Yanks could never adopt your Commonwealthers' usage of "pissed" because pissed already means angry over here. So if one of your bogan juicer mob says I got home late and she was pissed, it'd mean she'd been hitting the sauce while you were out and now she's sloshed. If we Yanks say I got home late and she was pissed it means she was waiting for you with a blunt object and/or she's changed the locks, and/or she's thrown all your clothes out on the front lawn and set them on fire.

Mütiilation - Black Metal Cult (2024) This one snook past me.

Good band. Their 2021 album Svmma Cvm Nox Arcana made my year end list that year. Yeah he could be pumping the old iron, or he could just be a dedicated hardcore wanker who does it lefty. Narbeleth - Svmma Cvm Nox Arcana, Cuba 2021

F5 - A Drug For All Seasons

Any beer that tastes like a fruit bowl is a travesty, all booze is piss and too much booze is pissed.

There is no fruit in the beer. Hops, barley, malt, yeast. I don't like fruit. Blueberries maybe but that's about it. Don't you Ozzies call all beer "piss" even the good stuff?

I never said I don't like fruit. Just that it has no place in beer.

This again. Blokes live in Spain but are from Cuba originally. Look at his tricep. Someone's been doing his behind-the-neck broadsword extensions - 3 sets x 10 reps.

Alright, but thrash is fruity and you love that. And Iron Maiden, they don't come much fruitier than that. Seems like a bit of a contradiction from where I sit.

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