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15 minutes ago, Yobo said:

Had a great weekend by seeing Swallow the Sun, Wolfheart, Nightbringer and Naglfar with my best friend :D Also talked a while with Mikko, the singer of Swallow the Sun, a very cool and nice guy. The depression is kicking in now though  :sad:

I hate those kinds of mood swings. Glad you had a good time, nice to see you again. How was Naglfar?

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Sorry to hear that Yobo. We're here for you mate. Glad you enjoyed the gig.

 

Recently got back in touch with an old school friend and it surprised me to learn he is: running his own cleaning business, engaged, and has quit smoking. Good on him...now I really feel like I'm wasting my life.

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2 hours ago, FatherAlabaster said:

I hate those kinds of mood swings. Glad you had a good time, nice to see you again. How was Naglfar?

Haha it's stupid indeed. But I've nice times coming up ahead, since I will travel to France this weekend with another friend and next monday I'll get to see Misthyrming and Mgla - hopefully I dig Mgla's show more then their last album. And then 11 december I'll travel to Eindhoven Metal Meeting, which has a cool line up.

Naglfar definitely nailed it with a great show, good atmoshphere as well. Sadly they played only one hour, but oh well, we had a great evening :)

Edit: Thanks btw, hopefully I'll get to stick more around here from now on. But there has been a lot on my head lately. I'm about to quit my study, everything within Ashladan isn't going to well and so more.

10 minutes ago, RelentlessOblivion said:

Sorry to hear that Yobo. We're here for you mate. Glad you enjoyed the gig.

Thanks dude, much appreciated :)

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4 minutes ago, Yobo said:

Haha it's stupid indeed. But I've nice times coming up ahead, since I will travel to France this weekend with another friend and next monday I'll get to see Misthyrming and Mgla - hopefully I dig Mgla's show more then their last album. And then 11 december I'll travel to Eindhoven Metal Meeting, which has a cool line up.

Naglfar definitely nailed it with a great show, good atmoshphere as well. Sadly they played only one hour, but oh well, we had a great evening :)

Edit: Thanks btw, hopefully I'll get to stick more around here from now on. But there has been a lot on my head lately. I'm about to quit my study, everything within Ashladan isn't going to well and so more.

You're quitting school? Sorry to hear it - is there a specific reason, or just lost interest? None of my business really,feel free to keep it to yourself. I've definitely had a lot on my mind as well, so it's been hard for me to be productive lately. Hope you enjoy your upcoming shows. 

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6 minutes ago, FatherAlabaster said:

You're quitting school? Sorry to hear it - is there a specific reason, or just lost interest? None of my business really,feel free to keep it to yourself. I've definitely had a lot on my mind as well, so it's been hard for me to be productive lately. Hope you enjoy your upcoming shows. 

It's not definitive yet, but it's just a huge lack of motivation from my side to continue. I pretty much failed last year already due the lack of motivation, but I was hoping it would be better after holidays. Also, I was doing a lot of other things beside school. Anyways, it's almost december and don't have the energy or motivation to continue. There's the huge downside though, which means that I'll have a huge debt if I really quit.

I'm sorry to hear that, hopefully everything is alright.

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I've been chasing pigs all over the fucking yard for what seems like weeks now. My fencing is bullshit made out of pallets and scrap and air, lots of air apparently. I've got only two left at this point and they won't see another Christmas. I'm gonna' eat their feet and burn their crappy shanty town to the ground. I've been keeping pigs for about seven years at this point, and I'm going to be so glad to be done for a good long while. 

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5 minutes ago, GorboGorboze said:

I've been chasing pigs all over the fucking yard for what seems like weeks now. My fencing is bullshit made out of pallets and scrap and air, lots of air apparently. I've got only two left at this point and they won't see another Christmas. I'm gonna' eat their feet and burn their crappy shanty town to the ground. I've been keeping pigs for about seven years at this point, and I'm going to be so glad to be done for a good long while. 

I love how descriptive this is. My mom wanted to keep goats, which our neighbors had at one point, and it never looked like a fun time to me. I think pigs are cute, but it seems like familiarity breeds contempt in this case. Hope they're tasty. 

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1 hour ago, Yobo said:

It's not definitive yet, but it's just a huge lack of motivation from my side to continue. I pretty much failed last year already due the lack of motivation, but I was hoping it would be better after holidays. Also, I was doing a lot of other things beside school. Anyways, it's almost december and don't have the energy or motivation to continue. There's the huge downside though, which means that I'll have a huge debt if I really quit.

I'm sorry to hear that, hopefully everything is alright.

Hmm. Good luck. I bet it would be better in the long run for you to stick it out, if you can. I go through some regret about my own education, though that's mostly because of the cost, but no matter how I feel about it, I'm happy I finished it rather than dropping out.

I'm ok. More obstacles in the way of band stuff than I'd hoped for at this point. To be honest I nearly always feel frustrated and unproductive anyway, which sometimes drives me forward but in this case is just dragging me down. It's alright though, I just need to keep my head down and work when I have the opportunity. 

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It just took us 9 hours to drive home from Vegas. There's no reason why it should even take more than 6 hours, even including stops. So much stupid all over the fucking road, dropping down to stop and go to merge from 2 lanes to 1, tiny snow flurries that didn't even stick to the freeway dropping people down to 10 MPH, accidents off the side of the road that didn't impede traffic inspiring everyone to rubberneck, etc... This is why I'm not a gun owner, I would have needed to reload multiple times before we even made it back into Utah...

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Had a great weekend by seeing Swallow the Sun, Wolfheart, Nightbringer and Naglfar with my best friend [emoji3] Also talked a while with Mikko, the singer of Swallow the Sun, a very cool and nice guy. The depression is kicking in now though  default_icon_e_sad.gif

How was WolfHeart? Always like Before the Dawn etc.

I must say, they are better live than on cd. Especially the songs from Shadow World sounded way better. So yeah, they are definitely worth seeing.

1 hour ago, Yobo said: It's not definitive yet, but it's just a huge lack of motivation from my side to continue. I pretty much failed last year already due the lack of motivation, but I was hoping it would be better after holidays. Also, I was doing a lot of other things beside school. Anyways, it's almost december and don't have the energy or motivation to continue. There's the huge downside though, which means that I'll have a huge debt if I really quit.

I'm sorry to hear that, hopefully everything is alright.

Hmm. Good luck. I bet it would be better in the long run for you to stick it out, if you can. I go through some regret about my own education, though that's mostly because of the cost, but no matter how I feel about it, I'm happy I finished it rather than dropping out.

I'm ok. More obstacles in the way of band stuff than I'd hoped for at this point. To be honest I nearly always feel frustrated and unproductive anyway, which sometimes drives me forward but in this case is just dragging me down. It's alright though, I just need to keep my head down and work when I have the opportunity. 

Yeah, maybe it is better to continue regarding the costs and stuff and that's the only thing which makes me afraid ro quit. On the other side though, due the lack and motivation it's hard to go on.

And good luck with the band, hopefully everything will be alright.

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I found myself really struggling to find motivation earlier this year. It was in a different context relating to my cycling though. The result was taking 5 months off when I should only have been out of action for 8-10 weeks. Ultimately setting challenging, but achieveable short term goals is what snapped me out of it but I have lost a lot of respect in the team for my attitude. Winning that back has become another source of motivation for me though.

 

Best of luck to you Yobo I hope you break out of that funk soon.

8 hours ago, GorboGorboze said:

I've been chasing pigs all over the fucking yard for what seems like weeks now. My fencing is bullshit made out of pallets and scrap and air, lots of air apparently. I've got only two left at this point and they won't see another Christmas. I'm gonna' eat their feet and burn their crappy shanty town to the ground. I've been keeping pigs for about seven years at this point, and I'm going to be so glad to be done for a good long while. 

Squeal for me piggy...

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It's what friends do apparently. I know where you're coming from though. During the worst of my depression just getting out of bed each morning was a struggle. Sometimes I wonder how I managed to get through those times. I still lapse back into the mindset from time to time but nowhere near the same depths.

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Who thinks of these genres and sub genres when it comes to metal? It's driving me nuts! I hear music, I either like it, love it, or hmm it but working on my page today and trying to categorize stuff I find out that what I considered to be black metal is actually blackened death metal (vital remains, belphegor for example) and what I considered folk metal is extreme metal (primordial) and then there is so much more I keep tripping over. I have been working on this since 8 am this morning and it's now nearly 3 pm and I'm frustrated and my butt is sore and my eyes have gone square from staring at the laptop. There, that is my rant over, I feel much better now. But my butt is still sore, I need better chairs lol

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The genre lines get blurred at times I agree and I've made that mistake a few times. Folk Metal tends to be more upbeat in atmosphere with traditional folk instruments and song structures being an integral part of the genre. Orphaned Land's Mabool is my favourite example. It's easy, at times, to confuse with Viking Metal which has a typically triumphant atmosphere, epic composition, and Viking related themes. Bathory's Hammerheart is a staple of that genre. I totally sympathise with your frustration.

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23 minutes ago, RelentlessOblivion said:

The genre lines get blurred at times I agree and I've made that mistake a few times. Folk Metal tends to be more upbeat in atmosphere with traditional folk instruments and song structures being an integral part of the genre. Orphaned Land's Mabool is my favourite example. It's easy, at times, to confuse with Viking Metal which has a typically triumphant atmosphere, epic composition, and Viking related themes. Bathory's Hammerheart is a staple of that genre. I totally sympathise with your frustration.

Bathory is another one I couldn't place at all. It could be either black, viking or extreme. I only did a few genres and putting the rest in to 'any metal'. Sometimes I feel so alone in my own little metal world, could really do with an extra head sometimes to bother with my million and one questions, but I'm living in Ireland and loving metal passionately and too old to make concessions so the chance of staying single is about 99.9% lol

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It's not so much that lines get blurred with genres as that bands often pull from various genres. I tend to slot band where the largest portion of their sound lies, but in cases of more even balances, it can be difficult. Also, it can change on an album to album basis with a band as they evolve.

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33 minutes ago, Sisa Belial said:

Who thinks of these genres and sub genres when it comes to metal? It's driving me nuts! I hear music, I either like it, love it, or hmm it but working on my page today and trying to categorize stuff I find out that what I considered to be black metal is actually blackened death metal (vital remains, belphegor for example) and what I considered folk metal is extreme metal (primordial) and then there is so much more I keep tripping over. I have been working on this since 8 am this morning and it's now nearly 3 pm and I'm frustrated and my butt is sore and my eyes have gone square from staring at the laptop. There, that is my rant over, I feel much better now. But my butt is still sore, I need better chairs lol

Think of it like beer. There are tons of different styles that refer to different combinations of different versions of the same ingredients. They're more or less defined, but they developed through a lot of experimentation, and there are still new ones being developed now. There are brewers that try to really nail a classic version of a style, and there are other brewers who treat style guidelines pretty loosely or just ignore them.

You can be a nerd, and sample a lot of stuff, and learn to understand the distinctions well, or you can just say it all tastes like beer and you like the dark stuff and leave it at that. Don't order a Guinness if you want a Newcastle. Don't order a Newcastle if you want a decent beer... ;) If you're in the mood for an American black IPA, it can be helpful to know that a Flemish sour red ale tastes nothing like that. 

FWIW, we've been considering getting rid of the subgenre sections here and making a smaller number of much broader categories (not heavy, kinda heavy, really really heavy). There will always be some disagreement about exactly what goes where. Sometimes that makes for interesting discussion, but all too often it devolves into what Richard Dawkins called the "tyranny of the discontinuous mind", this insistence that something has to be either A or B. The point of talking about it should be to find new bands, and increase your own understanding and enjoyment of the music you already like. 

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